Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I'm certainly old enough to remember (I was 21), but I honestly don't. The fact that I don't remember probably means that there was less bitterness back then, but that might well have been because the result was so clear cut. Don't forget that Nigel Farage, when he thought he was going to lose in 2016, said that a 52-48 result would be 'unfinished business'.
In fairness it's easier to moan now as there's so many more radio and TV stations and, of course, social media. people just love giving an opinion - on absolutely bloody everything <doh>.
 
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Very simplistic and easy to blame mismanagement for all the woes of the NHS.
I’m not saying it might not play some part but from my first hand experience this week on placement, I would say the major factor is an ageing population that just need care and support.

Well all i can say to that is that in the Med people generally live 12 years longer and the health care is far superior
 
An honest question....and if you’re old enough to remember you might be able to honestly answer...
Did the losers of the 1975 referendum really whine and complain as much as the losers of today ?
I was too young to remember.

They evolved into the people John Major called "the bastards", a small group including Bill Cash and Teresa Gorman, who rebelled at the time of the Maastricht Treaty.

I had no time for these early Brexiteers, but as the federalists began to dominate Brussels , the EU became more autocratic and resisted needed reform, and Blair's government encouraged mass immigration after the Eastern European countries joined the club, I, like many voters, became Eurosceptic.
 
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Well all i can say to that is that in the Med people generally live 12 years longer and the health care is far superior

The Mediterreanean diet is excellent, helped by the fact that healthy food grows well in the warm climate. The French in the South seem to lead a simpler, less stressed life than on our overcrowded island where there's huge competition for services and workers spend days in a year just travelling to work. The south of the UK does seem to be adopting a healthier, Med-like diet, but more needs to be done to spread the word in the North of England and Scotland.
 
Well all i can say to that is that in the Med people generally live 12 years longer and the health care is far superior

Is that just a figure you’ve come up with or a fact ?
I can only find the average life expectancy figures for UK at 80.88 years and for France at 81.86 years.
Italy comes in at 82.35 years.
Where does the 12 year gap come from ?
 
Is that just a figure you’ve come up with or a fact ?
I can only find the average life expectancy figures for UK at 80.88 years and for France at 81.86 years.
Italy comes in at 82.35 years.
Where does the 12 year gap come from ?

It's based on demographics. Namely, UK citizens who smoke based against the 7 people in the Med region who don't.
 
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The vote in 1975 was carried by 67-33, so much less contentious. Even so, the losers spent the next 40 years moaning about it.
Are you sure about that? My recollection, no doubt clouded by the intervening 46 years, is that it was Labour who had the vast majority of Eurosceptics and most Tories thought it was a good thing. Something no doubt to do with the stranglehold the unions had over business in those days.
 
The Mediterreanean diet is excellent, helped by the fact that healthy food grows well in the warm climate. The French in the South seem to lead a simpler, less stressed life than on our overcrowded island where there's huge competition for services and workers spend days in a year just travelling to work. The south of the UK does seem to be adopting a healthier, Med-like diet, but more needs to be done to spread the word in the North of England and Scotland.
Nowt wrong with pork scratchings and fried mars bars
 
Is that because, in your opinion, the public are generally too thick to make a decision?

Most are though and of those that aren’t, most are likely too busy to really be adequately informed of what they’re deciding on. Just about any issue that goes to a referendum is going to need a lot of serious research to be sufficiently informed which is part of an MP’s role. Hardly anyone (perhaps no one) on either side truly knew what they were voting for on an issue as complex as this.

Cameron didn’t give us a referendum because he thought the public should decide. He did it to keep the wolf from his door for a bit.
 
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Is that just a figure you’ve come up with or a fact ?
I can only find the average life expectancy figures for UK at 80.88 years and for France at 81.86 years.
Italy comes in at 82.35 years.
Where does the 12 year gap come from ?
From my nut
Languedoc Living
Don’t let the north of France muck the figures up
You live longer in the Languedoc unless of course you get shot