It is but everyone is particularly fair game now. Not saying they should be whiter than white but what Green has done is just plain odd and frankly quite funny. At least it’s legal stuff which makes a change.
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It is but everyone is particularly fair game now. Not saying they should be whiter than white but what Green has done is just plain odd and frankly quite funny. At least it’s legal stuff which makes a change.
In truth I am struggling to see any laudable elements in this story. A British government calling in the police on an opposition party MP in the first place is not right and sets a horrible precedent. Retired policemen revealing elements of that investigation which have nothing to do with legality, out of what is pretty obviously malice, years later is disgraceful. No public interest here for me, I go on the assumption that all politicians are sleazeballs so I can be delighted when the opposite is shown. The idea of a senior politician’s office being use as a porn cinema is unedifying. Unfortunately for Green he has to live with this and it certainly is a distraction from the much more important stuff going on, but he is the butt of all jokes anyway, whether it’s true or not, such is the power of the media. He needs to move on. I’m sure he can still help May without an official role.
I don't really know too much about this case. it sounds a bit fishy. Was it true that he was knocking one out at work?
I’d have thought that’s virtually impossible to prove unless several people walked in on it but they can check what was viewed and when. Seems a bit odd to just look at porn all day and not crack one out.
I think it’s good that there is a tide of people now that look at the news for what is really is
I always now look at other stories around away from any headlines as many imo are put there for a purpose and I believe it’s a deflectionary tactic
FFS this country has adopted the weather forecast as a bloody religion . The gravity of drama of the news stories has increased steadily over the years as it’s indexed linked to Holby City and Eastenders
Only in the U.K.
That’s why I love this little forum you get a great spectrum and just a mild indicator of exactly how disjointed the U.K. has become
I always now look at other stories around away from any headlines as many imo are put there for a purpose and I believe it’s a deflectionary tactic
FFS this country has adopted the weather forecast as a bloody religion . The gravity of drama of the news stories has increased steadily over the years as it’s indexed linked to Holby City and Eastenders
Only in the U.K.
That’s why I love this little forum you get a great spectrum and just a mild indicator of exactly how disjointed the U.K. has become
Don't change the subject, Stan. Make a clean breast of it...or do you, like Damien Green, deny everything?!
If someone wanted to delve into the sordid world of politicians' sexual practices, look no further than the bi-sexual Robert Boothby, who was a close mate of Ronnie Kray. I won't describe his fetish preferences in case people are having their breakfasts.
Not my thing to be honest mate but get your point. I will just let them get on with it.
Agree with a lot of that. Before we consign Green to ministerial history however, he has to be found guilty of the accusations by two ex-coppers, who have admitted they are collaborating on their claims. The senior ex-cop, Bob Quick led the raid on Tory offices and arrested a Tory shadow minister ( and searched his home and offices) for receiving information from a mole in the Home Office. That minister was Damian Green. Much of the stuff seized by Quick was covered by parliamentary privilege. There was a huge political storm. Quick was criticised, and in response, accused the Tories of corruption, which he later apologised for. He was a wounded animal and resigned not long after. He was an angry man, and was from then on known by his ex-colleagues as Bitter Bob.
It is Bitter Bob that is making these new allegations against Green, eight years later.
Not my thing to be honest mate but get your point. I will just let them get on with it.
The strange thing is that though Boothby indulged in the most revolting homosexual practices imaginable ( not a homophobic comment - it would be revolting if it was hetrosexual too), he had a straight affair the Prime Minister MacMillan's wife! It's another world out there...
Given that when I’m in an office it’s open plan, the opportunity never arises, whatever my personal inclination. When I’m working from home of course it’s a full on bouncy castle of self pleasure.
I can honestly say that even in the olden days when I did have an office with a door on a quick one off the wrist never crossed my mind, but this was the days before the internet, so the temptation was more distant.
Nowadays it’s made abundantly clear to us at work that our web surfing habits are tracked on work computers (though you can se them for personal stuff with a log in which is different to the company intranet) and access is blocked to certain sites - including some financial ones to my surprise. Cyber security is a massive thing for us, have never tried getting on to a porn site through a work device, because people have been disciplined and some sacked for that. And that’s what my iPad is for.
Does the Houses of Parliament have any kind of policy on this now? I find it genuinely bewildering that people would go to work to look at porn, even more so if their employer has a specific policy prohibiting this.
In the interests of full disclosure what’s your history on this charming subject?
I can't quite believe that people can believe that Green could sit at his desk, with all the office staff around and ****!! Gullible beyond belief.
I'd be interested to know what percentage of internet users have accessed a so-called porn site. I'd say it was way above 90%, even if the access was curiosity rather than sexual pleasure. I remember the first time we got an internet connection in our office (back in the early 1990's). It was connected up initially to a manager's pc in human resources. While he was at lunch, a group of twenty-something secretaries used his machine to access some pretty blue stuff. When I heard, I had an informal talk to them, emphasising that it wasn't a good idea and that the h.r. manager's internet history could be tracked by the company. They desisted, and I took the view not to inform the manager. I never heard that any accusations of impropriety were made against him!
There are questions over Green. It may all be made up by Bitter Bob Quick. There's no evidence apart from Quick and his ex-mates word for it. If it is true, Green was not a government minister at the time. It occurs to me also, he was no employed by anyone. Aren't MP's their own bosses? Interesting that as I type this, Labour's Andrew Adonis is being interviewed by LBC and believes the issue over porn access by Green is a total irrelevance (though obviously, Adonis does not include any evidence of improper sexual advances)
There's another aspect on web-browsing, social media at work. There was a report recently that recorded that an employee's access to social media, facebook etc not only wastes huge amounts of an employee's time but can distract someone for on average 40 minutes after desisting. This has a huge impact on productivity.
I reckon it would be close to 100% of men.
Aren’t MPs employees of the Houses of Parliament, and paid by the taxpayer? They get pensions from us as well, I don’t think they can be self employed. Though the lines are fuzzy on this now, my son is officially self employed under a special scheme for construction workers, even though he is working full time for one company.
Bored with this now, let’s move on. On the productivity thing I read the other day that we invest about 1.7% of GDP (or GNI I can’t remember) in R&D, while the OECD average is 2.4%. Which could be a big factor in us lagging behind. Though it will vary hugely by sector, we know we are world leading in some industries for innovation.
All men and women toss off
It’s natural
I heard that it’s been mentioned that the equipment has been linked to the taxpayer
We may then in effect helping him toss off
It s a **** robbery
It’s natural
I heard that it’s been mentioned that the equipment has been linked to the taxpayer
We may then in effect helping him toss off
It s a **** robbery
Quick bit of research. MP's are self-employed for tax purposes. They aren't paid by Parliament but by IPSA (Independant Parliamentary Standards Authority)
