If you look at a map of France and voting patterns, the whole of the west of France, north to south, voted Macron, and virtually the whole of the east, north to south, voted Le Pen. Talk about a divided country.
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And they want to run the country...
http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/24/labou...s-but-get-the-date-wrong-6594191/?ito=twitter
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Macron won it, Le Pen came second...run off on the 7th of May. Front National have done better than ever before, and so now everyone from centre left and centre right is backing Macron. Or are you all talking about a different election?
Don't follow. Help an old yoghurt knitter out and explain it to me.Sorry, that meant to say 'i'm not saying she is going to win'. It's still confusing though. Why not do it like us. You all go into a pot and whoever has the most wins?
Come off it mate. You knew exactly what you were voting for and so did I. It was made crystal clear by both sides that a leave vote would result in us leaving the single market. The Country voted leave.
Let's just keep on having a vote till you get the result you want eh?
Are all leave voters neanderthals?
That's just not true, Col.
Farage, Johnson, Hannan and others all said that leaving the EU needn't mean leaving the Single Market. Here's that video again.....
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It is true to say that Cameron and Osborne were saying that a Leave vote did mean leaving the Single Market, but that was scaremongering wasn't it?
I knew what I was voting for, to stay in the EU. You made it pretty clear what you were voting for, sovereignty issues, which even though it never bothered me much does make sense. How many people thought they were voting to get some or all of the below? Neither of us can say for certain. It definitely wasn't made clear that we would leave the single market by the leave campaign, or what the consequences could be, quite the reverse. We won't know the reality for a couple of years at least. I don't see what is so outrageous about having a referendum based on the reality rather than threats, promises and lies (both sides).
http://www.open-britain.co.uk/leave_campaigners_try_to_drop_their_false_promises
Anyway, no point going back over this ****, decision done and we won't get a second referendum. What bothers me at the moment is the continual threatening whining of the leave professionals whenever a contrary view is expressed. Calling people undemocratic because they don't agree with you is oxymoronic in the extreme.
However you voted I defy anyone to say that politics and public debate in this country are in a better place now than they were a couple of years ago (and they were **** then). And for that we can blame David Cameron.
I voted leave and I am neither a neanderthal OR stupid enough to have believed everything I heard. For anyone to suggest that whatever way you voted was an ill informed decision is an insult. It is these sort of generalisations that undermine the argument, whether you were for or agin.
That was the Neanderthals reference. Read the ****ing posts you ****ing ****er.
Let's not stray from the ****ing OP. I don't want this to turn into a sweary post. I'm going to stop ****ing posting if it does.
Fair enough. TBH if we can have free access and stay in the single market that would be fine by me. I just don't think the EU will let us do that. When I voted leave I assumed that we would have to leave the single market because of its membership being reliant on the free movement of people. which I don't want us to be a part of.
Anyway, as Stan says, no point going over all this **** again.
I'm more worried that I may see Rangers drop a step nearer to league 1 on Saturday.
The map shown by Sky at lunchtime was virtually all Macron or Le Pen, with pockets of others here and there, and the east/west split was commented on. Remember Le Pen's support was mostly rural so that would show as greater area than urban votes
So it's just like Brexit you get over 50%, you are the winner and you respect the result.