Off Topic The Politics Thread

[GoldhawkRoad]

A bit low, wouldn't you say, making threats regarding security? Why should failure to reach a trade agreement weaken our cooperation in security issues?

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If the EU deliberately sets out to damage the UK, with the view to discouraging other EU member states from leaving the organisation, there will be bad feeling and I would expect the UK generally to gravitate towards to the US, including re-security, reducing cooperation with the EU. Fact of life, Mr Junckers might care to remember.

 

[kiwiqpr]

A bit low, wouldn't you say, making threats regarding security? Why should failure to reach a trade agreement weaken our cooperation in security issues?

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A bit low,wouldn't you say, making threats regarding anything by either side before negotiations on anything has even started

 

[Tramore Ranger]

I know it's all opinions...but what's the general feeling on how Brexit is gonna effect house prices here in the U.K. in the next few years, if any at all ??
I only ask 'cos I'm house hunting at the moment (upsizing) and beginning to wonder if it might be a good idea to hang on for a bit ( Even though Mrs Staines has the final word on that one)

To be honest Stainesy the only way house prices in the South of England are going is up......

 

[Stroller]

If the EU deliberately sets out to damage the UK, with the view to discouraging other EU member states from leaving the organisation, there will be bad feeling and I would expect the UK generally to gravitate towards to the US, including re-security, reducing cooperation with the EU. Fact of life, Mr Junckers might care to remember.

Surely the more everyone cooperates on security, the safer we all are? Are we going to refuse to provide information on a potential threat because they wouldn't give us what we want on trade? It's daft.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Surely the more everyone cooperates on security, the safer we all are? Are we going to refuse to provide information on a potential threat because they wouldn't give us what we want on trade? It's daft.

There are levels of cooperation. Of course, if we learned about a specific threat, we would pass that on. But how much do Germany and the US work together? - not as much as the UK and the US, I would guess.

 

[ELLERS]

A bit low, wouldn't you say, making threats regarding security?

Bloody hell 'Kettle/black'! Haven't the EU been threatening us since before and after Brexit? Short memory you have troll.
On a serious note, I agree with what some bloke said today in that we (UK) will try and splinter the EU and make deals with various countries which will be in their interests. A country that makes a lot of money through dealing with the UK will not risk business if someone else gets the deal.
One by one the will fall into line.

 

[Stroller]

A bit low,wouldn't you say, making threats regarding anything by either side before negotiations on anything has even started

I assume you're alluding to some kind of threat made by the EU? There's threats and there's threats though. This is like saying 'we know where your kids go to school'.

 

[sb_73]

It's most definitely a threat, Strolls. And a reminder to the likes of Juncker and Verhofstadt that a punishment beating to the UK will also cost the EU dear.

There's a lot of positioning going on at the moment. It's like two boxers running their mouths for the benefit of the media, boasting how they're gonna take their opponent apart. Once the teams sit down across the table, I'm hopeful that all the rhetoric will fade away, and the negotiators will be mindful of the responsibilities to their citizens find a workable resolution that benefits all.

So you are happy with a negotiating stance that essentially says 'give us a free trade deal or we won't share intelligence which could save lives in Europe?'. If that is really what she is saying, I'm ashamed of my government, even if it's only posturing.

I know it's all opinions...but what's the general feeling on how Brexit is gonna effect house prices here in the U.K. in the next few years, if any at all ??
I only ask 'cos I'm house hunting at the moment (upsizing) and beginning to wonder if it might be a good idea to hang on for a bit ( Even though Mrs Staines has the final word on that one)

I haven't got the faintest idea mate. I'd guess price rises will continue to slow because of uncertainty. But it's probably a good time to buy if you need a mortgage because rates may not stay so low.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

So you are happy with a negotiating stance that essentially says 'give us a free trade deal or we won't share intelligence which could save lives in Europe?'. If that is really what she is saying, I'm ashamed of my government, even if it's only posturing.

I haven't got the faintest idea mate. I'd guess price rises will continue to slow because of uncertainty. But it's probably a good time to buy if you need a mortgage because rates may not stay so low.

We would share any specific intelligence - see my answer to Strolls. But the balance re security would tilt towards the US, which is where it was before we joined the EU. It's naive to think that positive cooperation would build with the EU if the EU has acted in bad faith over the terms of our leaving the club (which is more than just a free trade deal,- you've been selective, Stan)

All the threats are emanating from certain individuals in the EU - the UK responds every now and then.

 

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[durbar2003]

So you are happy with a negotiating stance that essentially says 'give us a free trade deal or we won't share intelligence which could save lives in Europe?'. If that is really what she is saying, I'm ashamed of my government, even if it's only posturing.

I haven't got the faintest idea mate. I'd guess price rises will continue to slow because of uncertainty. But it's probably a good time to buy if you need a mortgage because rates may not stay so low.

If interest rates rise house purchases should slow or maybe drop as mortgages become more expensive.

 

[Stroller]

No one like this on here, thankfully.

http://newsthump.com/2016/07/26/bre...ranny-furious-people-might-disagree-with-him/

 

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[finglasqpr]

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Nice Scottish flag on the 50 euro note.

 

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[sb_73]

One of the things that undermined our 'sovereignty' under the European Communities Act was the power that government assumed to incorporate EU regulations directly into U.K. law without parliamentary scrutiny. Hence the understandable distress felt by some of the 'anti democratic' nature of EU. But necessary to be a member of the EU, and at least scrutinised by the European Parliament.

This power for the government to make regulations which change Acts of Parliament without referring to Parliament are included in the Great Repeal Act White Paper. Now there won't be any scrutiny of these regulations.

Viva democracy!

 

[rangercol]

Bloody hell! We've got two years of the remoaners hoping and preying that our Country will fail, just so they can say they were right. It could get very tiresome! Especially that twat Tim Farron.
They've already been wrong on so many things like the economy going into meltdown immediately after the vote, the need for an emergency budget, higher unemployment etc etc.........................oh and world war three!!!!
There will be bumps in the road over the next two years and every time there is these depressing, negative bores will chime up with "there you go, we were right".

Let's be positive and talk this great Nation up.