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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
YorkshireHoopster said:
Isn't it amazing that free market supporters who want an economy based on lack of regulation or State intervention can suffer such collective amnesia. It was after all only 8-9 years ago. An alien version of David Attenborough would have a field day describing this unusal phenomenon of self-delusion

Fact. It was that warped view of economics which led to traders gambling with our futures so that they could make a fast buck and banking institutions who were all up each other to the hilt at the time crashed plunging us all into financial crisis.

Fact. It was not socialism which caused the crash because Brown was a free marketeer. Had gorgeous George Osborne been in charge of the economy during the golden Blair years he would have been congratulated and feted for the very same mistakes for which Brown is now being pilloried. What would his medicine at the time have been? 8 years of austerity hasn't solved anything. Would he have allowed the stricken banks to die? After all the market knows best, the State knows **** all and government's role should be to let be what will/should be. No he wouldn't. He would have sought to bail them out as Brown did and would not have acted differently at all. he would have been just as powerless as Brown and Darling were to stop the force of the free market in freefall.

Come on guys. I remember what happened at the time and I'm sure you do too.
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I don’t kid myself for one second that the government under David Cameron was conservative with a small ‘c’. The self-proclaimed ‘heir to Blair’ was certainly something with a small ‘c’, but it wasn’t conservative.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
Fragging? Is that something to do with Fulton Mackay, a dog and a lighthouse?
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Fragging is very similar to Fracking expect they use J Cloths instead of the traditional Tampons used with Fracking
Both methods are not I repeat are Not good for the environment
Bottom line ...

Is something I do to myself with a felt tip
 
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heard some interesting news yesterday.
apparently some index thingy gave London top spot for finance beating New York. So What happened to Paris and Frankfurt? You remember all the companies were moving out to these places (s0o we were told). Paris didn't even make top 10 and fell in it's standing. Frankfurt didn't even make the list. <laugh>
More project fear debunked.
 
ELLERS said:
heard some interesting news yesterday.
apparently some index thingy gave London top spot for finance beating New York. So What happened to Paris and Frankfurt? You remember all the companies were moving out to these places (s0o we were told). Paris didn't even make top 10 and fell in it's standing. Frankfurt didn't even make the list. <laugh>
More project fear debunked.
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Let’s all remember this post in 5 years
London should take about that amount of time to ease off. I stand that the things I have seen are all in preparation. We are still in Europe by the way why would anything change yet? They will all go if it’s in their interests make no mistake about that Ellers

London has always been the top financial city in recent years ... Everythibg will be done I expect to save it ... what this goes to show that these businesses and not all financial can afford to set aside billions to cover all bases. This has nothing to do with Brexit

Retail looks in crisis if the U.K. big shop starts to fail watch them all switch the market. I believe they want and need the U.K. culture frankly because it is so stupid
 
ELLERS said:
heard some interesting news yesterday.
apparently some index thingy gave London top spot for finance beating New York. So What happened to Paris and Frankfurt? You remember all the companies were moving out to these places (s0o we were told). Paris didn't even make top 10 and fell in it's standing. Frankfurt didn't even make the list. <laugh>
More project fear debunked.
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Frankurt is 11th, up 12 places this year!!!
 
I got it the wrong way around. Apologies, that global hub of Paris didn't make the list. Even Toronto is higher than both Frankfurt and Paris. Had a chat with a French chap at the weekend based in Paris who deals in lifts. Very interesting comments. His company didn't want Brexit and doesn't seem to think there will be a problem dealing with us in the future. Oh and just for all the 'Remoaners' His contacts all say the same in that they respect us and still want to work with us. I guess all the doom and gloom is produced in the UK?
 
ELLERS said:
heard some interesting news yesterday.
apparently some index thingy gave London top spot for finance beating New York. So What happened to Paris and Frankfurt? You remember all the companies were moving out to these places (s0o we were told). Paris didn't even make top 10 and fell in it's standing. Frankfurt didn't even make the list. <laugh>
More project fear debunked.
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If coming top of some index thing equalled the vast profits going toward solving social problems in the UK and around the world, I'd be delighted, but whilst it reflects the bank balances and dominance of wealthy businesses who pay their labour forces as little as legally possible, it makes no real difference.
 
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Woodyhoopleson said:
If coming top of some index thing equalled the vast profits going toward solving social problems in the UK and around the world, I'd be delighted, but whilst it reflects the bank balances and dominance of wealthy businesses who pay their labour forces as little as legally possible, it makes no real difference.
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To be fair Woody, if it was the opposite way round and London hadn’t made the list and, say Frankfurt was top.....the remaining lot would be on here pointing to the fact that doom is coming round the corner and this just proves it.
 
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It's pretty clear re the Russian poisonings and the antisemitism in Labour that there is a chasm in that party. Surely the right thing, is for Jezza to go off and form another party and take all his Jew hater followers with him. A name for his new party? I'm thinking that since Jezza claims to espouse socialism, he could call it the National Socialist Party :emoticon-0100-smile
 
Staines R's said:
To be fair Woody, if it was the opposite way round and London hadn’t made the list and, say Frankfurt was top.....the remaining lot would be on here pointing to the fact that doom is coming round the corner and this just proves it.
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I didn't mean it with any leave/remain slant, merely as an acknowledgement that success is measured primarily in financial terms, as opposed to social conditions and that there is no specific relationship between the two. I find that strange.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
It's pretty clear re the Russian poisonings and the antisemitism in Labour that there is a chasm in that party. Surely the right thing, is for Jezza to go off and form another party and take all his Jew hater followers with him. A name for his new party? I'm thinking that since Jezza claims to espouse socialism, he could call it the National Socialist Party :emoticon-0100-smile
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What exactly are the allegations of anti-Jewish sentiment. I know about the mural, is there more to it?
 
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