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Well they’ll take the fine if they’re found to have committed a crime after a long investigation. Did it even happen?
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France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
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Most political parties in France have condemned what they called Hamas's "terrorist attack"
By Ido Vock
BBC News
France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.
In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.
The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.
On Thursday, German police broke up a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Berlin.
France has a Jewish community of almost 500,000, the biggest in Europe. France's Muslim community is also among Europe's largest - an estimated five million.
Mr Darmanin told regional prefects that Jewish schools and synagogues should be protected by a visible police presence.
He earlier told French radio that 100 antisemitic acts had been recorded since Saturday. Most involved graffiti showing "swastikas, 'death to Jews,' calls to intifadas against Israel". However, some incidents included people being arrested attempting to carry knives into schools and synagogues, he added.
French police are already guarding the homes of leading MPs. National Assembly President Yaël Braun-Pivet and MP Meyer Habib have been offered further protection.
In a separate move, Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz declared "zero tolerance" for antisemitism.
He told parliament a pro-Palestinian group that had celebrated the murders of Israeli civilians on Saturday would be banned.
Berlin police have also banned planned pro-Palestinian demonstrations, citing the risk of antisemitic statements and glorification of violence. Authorities said around 60 demonstrators complied with an order to leave Berlin's Potsdamer Platz on Thursday.
French President Emmanuel Macron was due to give a TV address on Wednesday in a bid to prevent the war from escalating tensions.
Twelve French citizens are known to have died in the Hamas attack and Mr Macron told party leaders that of the 17 others missing, four were children.
It has also emerged that Assembly President Braun-Pivet has received death threats.
A member of President Emmanuel Macron's Renaissance party, she had parliament lit this week in the colours of the Israeli flag in response to the Hamas attack on Israel and called a minute's silence before an Assembly session on Tuesday.
Ms Braun-Pivet also announced that Maryam Abu Daqqa, a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), would be banned from attending a documentary screening in parliament next month. The militant organisation is recognised as a terrorist organisation by the EU.
Meyer Habib has also been given protection. He represents a constituency for overseas French citizens which includes Israel and the Palestinian Territories and is a vocal supporter of Israel. After the Hamas attack he said "we are witnessing the return of pogroms".
French politics has been riven by the Hamas attack and its aftermath.
While most parties have condemned Saturday's "terrorist attack" and expressed support for Israel's right to respond, the initial response from Jean-Luc Mélenchon's far-left La France Insoumise (France Unbowed) party was more equivocal.
A statement by the party referred to the Hamas attack as "an armed offensive of Palestinian forces", prompting fierce criticism from other parties, including left-wing allies such as the Socialist and Communist parties.
In Germany, Chancellor Scholz told MPs in the Bundestag that Israel's security was German state policy. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock is due to travel to Israel on Friday in a gesture of solidarity.
Mr Scholz also announced that pro-Palestinian group Samidoun, which was pictured handing out sweets in the Neukölln area of Berlin to celebrate the Hamas attack, would be banned. "We do not tolerate antisemitism," he added.
According to German authorities, in several towns across the country including Mainz, Braunschweig and Heilbronn, Israeli flags raised in solidarity with the country were torn down and destroyed, sometimes in just a few hours.
"The act disrespects and mocks the victims" of Hamas's attack, Braunschweig's mayor, Thorsten Kornblum, said.
Mr Scholz added that "without Iranian support, Hamas would not have been able to carry out these unprecedented attacks".
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France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
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Most political parties in France have condemned what they called Hamas's "terrorist attack"
By Ido Vock
BBC News
France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.
In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.
The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.
On Thursday, German police broke up a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Berlin.
France has a Jewish community of almost 500,000, the biggest in Europe. France's Muslim community is also among Europe's largest - an estimated five million.
Mr Darmanin told regional prefects that Jewish schools and synagogues should be protected by a visible police presence.
He earlier told French radio that 100 antisemitic acts had been recorded since Saturday. Most involved graffiti showing "swastikas, 'death to Jews,' calls to intifadas against Israel". However, some incidents included people being arrested attempting to carry knives into schools and synagogues, he added.
French police are already guarding the homes of leading MPs. National Assembly President Yaël Braun-Pivet and MP Meyer Habib have been offered further protection.
In a separate move, Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz declared "zero tolerance" for antisemitism.
He told parliament a pro-Palestinian group that had celebrated the murders of Israeli civilians on Saturday would be banned.
Berlin police have also banned planned pro-Palestinian demonstrations, citing the risk of antisemitic statements and glorification of violence. Authorities said around 60 demonstrators complied with an order to leave Berlin's Potsdamer Platz on Thursday.
French President Emmanuel Macron was due to give a TV address on Wednesday in a bid to prevent the war from escalating tensions.
Twelve French citizens are known to have died in the Hamas attack and Mr Macron told party leaders that of the 17 others missing, four were children.
It has also emerged that Assembly President Braun-Pivet has received death threats.
A member of President Emmanuel Macron's Renaissance party, she had parliament lit this week in the colours of the Israeli flag in response to the Hamas attack on Israel and called a minute's silence before an Assembly session on Tuesday.
Ms Braun-Pivet also announced that Maryam Abu Daqqa, a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), would be banned from attending a documentary screening in parliament next month. The militant organisation is recognised as a terrorist organisation by the EU.
Meyer Habib has also been given protection. He represents a constituency for overseas French citizens which includes Israel and the Palestinian Territories and is a vocal supporter of Israel. After the Hamas attack he said "we are witnessing the return of pogroms".
French politics has been riven by the Hamas attack and its aftermath.
While most parties have condemned Saturday's "terrorist attack" and expressed support for Israel's right to respond, the initial response from Jean-Luc Mélenchon's far-left La France Insoumise (France Unbowed) party was more equivocal.
A statement by the party referred to the Hamas attack as "an armed offensive of Palestinian forces", prompting fierce criticism from other parties, including left-wing allies such as the Socialist and Communist parties.
In Germany, Chancellor Scholz told MPs in the Bundestag that Israel's security was German state policy. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock is due to travel to Israel on Friday in a gesture of solidarity.
Mr Scholz also announced that pro-Palestinian group Samidoun, which was pictured handing out sweets in the Neukölln area of Berlin to celebrate the Hamas attack, would be banned. "We do not tolerate antisemitism," he added.
According to German authorities, in several towns across the country including Mainz, Braunschweig and Heilbronn, Israeli flags raised in solidarity with the country were torn down and destroyed, sometimes in just a few hours.
"The act disrespects and mocks the victims" of Hamas's attack, Braunschweig's mayor, Thorsten Kornblum, said.
Mr Scholz added that "without Iranian support, Hamas would not have been able to carry out these unprecedented attacks".
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There appears to be a lot of evidence from various sources and not just Palestinian ones - it's also the case that Israel has used these devices before. It appears that the British and US governments have given the thumbs up to Israel to use any means at their disposal so Sunak's government are now accessory to war crimes. If Russia uses these types of weapons and targets civilians in the way that Israel is doing then they are hammered by the Western press and rightly so. For too many years we have stifled all criticism of Israel and its actions against the Palestinians through fear of being labelled as anti semitic - that has to stop.
So we can stop all free debate - any questioning of the morality of Israel's position, or any support for civilians living in a closed in ghetto under bombardment, and systematically staved, is now no longer allowed !! Where the hell are we living ?
I’d sympathise if they were out mourning an event not of Palestine’s making but people were celebrating the attack on Israel before any retaliation.
In lighter news, Captain Tom’s Tory **** daughter could be going to prison except she won’t because they’re full and she’s a massive Tory. Probably be in the Lords next.
This hour long podcast will help you shed a light on what's behind the Hamas attack on Israel...
Some interesting developments between Israel and Saudi governments, who were close to leading towards the 2 nation state, but this isn't what Hamas want. It's also not what Iran want, who are using Hamas, Hezbollah and the Huthis in Yemen to destabilise the region, whilst the Saudis now have fingers in the Pakistan regime and in the Taliban in Afghanistan.
The Saudis are worried about their desalination plants, as they have no fresh water supplies and have been asking the US for access to commercial nuclear power to move away from reliance upon fossil fuels for this. Part of the conditions is a $1.1trillion deal with Israel, which Netanyahu was all for, with him agreeing to the 2 nation state.
This attack has put an emergency brake to all of that, the blame firmly in Hamas' corner....the average Palestinian would've seen a huge improvement in their lives.
Give it a listen...
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Some interesting developments between Israel and Saudi governments, who were close to leading towards the 2 nation state, but this isn't what Hamas want. It's also not what Iran want, who are using Hamas, Hezbollah and the Huthis in Yemen to destabilise the region, whilst the Saudis now have fingers in the Pakistan regime and in the Taliban in Afghanistan.
The Saudis are worried about their desalination plants, as they have no fresh water supplies and have been asking the US for access to commercial nuclear power to move away from reliance upon fossil fuels for this. Part of the conditions is a $1.1trillion deal with Israel, which Netanyahu was all for, with him agreeing to the 2 nation state.
This attack has put an emergency brake to all of that, the blame firmly in Hamas' corner....the average Palestinian would've seen a huge improvement in their lives.
Give it a listen...
The IDF have given 24 hours notice for 1.1m Palestinians in Gaza to move south of Wadi Gaza, which the UN has called impossible and asked for the order to be rescinded. The notice was issued at midnight local time so a mere 15 hours remaining for the deadline
Where can the people go? The only exit for Gaza residents is through Rafah into Egypt. The Egyptians not keen on 2.3m refugees arriving
Meanwhile Blinken lands in Jordan trying to defuse the whole situation and to avoid a humanitarian disaster
Hezzbollah are a huge issue for Israel now -
ABC News -
Israel, which has vowed to crush Hamas, is now preparing for a possible ground offensive. While the country's political and military leaders weigh the next move, they are nervously watching Hezbollah on Israel's northern border and have sent troop reinforcements to the area. Hezbollah, with an arsenal of tens of thousands of rockets and missiles capable of hitting virtually anywhere in Israel, is viewed as a far more formidable foe than Hamas.
Israel is anxious that opening a new front in the country's north could change the tide of the war, with Hezbollah's military caliber far superior to that of Hamas. But the fighting could be equally devastating for Hezbollah and Lebanon.
The possibility of a new front in Lebanon also brings back bitter memories of a vicious monthlong war between Hezbollah and Israel in 2006 that ended in a stalemate and a tense detente between the two sides. Lebanon is in the fourth year of a crippling economic crisis and is bitterly divided between Hezbollah and its allies and opponents, paralyzing the political system.
Israel is especially worried about Hezbollah's precision-guided missiles, which are believed to be aimed at strategic targets like natural gas rigs and power stations. Hezbollah is also battle-hardened from years of fighting alongside President Bashar Assad's troops in neighboring Syria.
Where can the people go? The only exit for Gaza residents is through Rafah into Egypt. The Egyptians not keen on 2.3m refugees arriving
Meanwhile Blinken lands in Jordan trying to defuse the whole situation and to avoid a humanitarian disaster
Hezzbollah are a huge issue for Israel now -
ABC News -
Israel, which has vowed to crush Hamas, is now preparing for a possible ground offensive. While the country's political and military leaders weigh the next move, they are nervously watching Hezbollah on Israel's northern border and have sent troop reinforcements to the area. Hezbollah, with an arsenal of tens of thousands of rockets and missiles capable of hitting virtually anywhere in Israel, is viewed as a far more formidable foe than Hamas.
Israel is anxious that opening a new front in the country's north could change the tide of the war, with Hezbollah's military caliber far superior to that of Hamas. But the fighting could be equally devastating for Hezbollah and Lebanon.
The possibility of a new front in Lebanon also brings back bitter memories of a vicious monthlong war between Hezbollah and Israel in 2006 that ended in a stalemate and a tense detente between the two sides. Lebanon is in the fourth year of a crippling economic crisis and is bitterly divided between Hezbollah and its allies and opponents, paralyzing the political system.
Israel is especially worried about Hezbollah's precision-guided missiles, which are believed to be aimed at strategic targets like natural gas rigs and power stations. Hezbollah is also battle-hardened from years of fighting alongside President Bashar Assad's troops in neighboring Syria.
HRW have confirmed Israel has deployed white phosphorus in Gaza and South Lebanon and stated it is a banned substance. Seems right now that no one cares given that the US has given a free hand to Israel.
The UN and EU looking particularly toothless again
It was reported this morning that the land offensive wouldn't happen if Hamas released the surviving hostages.
Everything that is happening right now is the fault of Hamas and their supporters and they are achieving exactly what they set out to do.
Everything that is happening right now is the fault of Hamas and their supporters and they are achieving exactly what they set out to do.
Maybe the murder or concert goers and the taking of hostages should also be banned