Off Topic The Politics Thread

[QPR Oslo]

Putin can't pull back without having something to show for it Col. An agreement on the neutrality of Ukraine, recognition of Crimea and of the independent republics of pro Russian separatists from Lugansk and Donetsk would give him a way back without losing face. What we don't really know is whether he is looking for a possible 'way out of this' but the more Russian losses mount the more domestic pressure will build up. The West must have a clear picture of how this could end up - if Putin remains in power and gets his demands can we deal with him in future or is this the start of a new cold war ? If he is deposed will this lead to a new and possibly more dangerous power vacuum in Russia ? And what if the Russians withdraw with nothing - Ukraine may also be left with a power vacuum in what will then be one of the most heavily armed states in Europe and where Fascists, if not more in number than in other countries, have an over proportional influence particularly in the military.

So the mass graves and abused women arent good enough for that C****.

 

[Stroller]

Now we know why Johnson loses it so often at PMQs. Apparently, Angela Rayner has been crossing and uncrossing her legs to put him off.

The hussy.

 

[rangercol]

Now we know why Johnson loses it so often at PMQs. Apparently, Angela Rayner has been crossing and uncrossing her legs to put him off.

The hussy.

 

[daverangers]

5 minutes to results...actually quite nervous. As a Brit living in Paris, this result could have quite an impact on me.

 

[daverangers]

Phew...Macron wins with 58.2%

 

[Wherever]

Wow a complete fart wins over a complete racist

 

[daverangers]

Wow a complete fart wins over a complete racist

A bit harsh, half a fart, he's only 5"8.

 

[Willhoops]

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[qprbeth]

Can I add to the anonymous MPs who reported this to the Mail.

It says a lot about your leader if he is that easily distracted from the task in hand that a lady crossing her legs will cause him to crumble into a testosterone induced blubbering idiot.


Okay...I have now read what I have written...and as he is mostly a blubbering idiot...I now understand

 

[rangercol]

Can I add to the anonymous MPs who reported this to the Mail.

It says a lot about your leader if he is that easily distracted from the task in hand that a lady crossing her legs will cause him to crumble into a testosterone induced blubbering idiot.


Okay...I have now read what I have written...and as he is mostly a blubbering idiot...I now understand

For goodness sake Beth.
Johnson has completely denounced this nonesense, calling it misogyny.
It's the MPs and The Mail that you should be calling out for their sexism.

 

[kiwiqpr]

Anonymous
You could make up any old **** and people would believe it

 

[qprbeth]

For goodness sake Beth.
Johnson has completely denounced this nonesense, calling it misogyny.
It's the MPs and The Mail that you should be calling out for their sexism.

You missed my point there Col.

The mail assumed that Boris would be "distracted " by a woman crossing her legs.
Wot really!!!!


For goodness sake Col..is it real that men are so easily distracted by a woman crossing their legs, that they cannot concentrate to answer Prime Ministers Question Time!

No wonder QPR have been so s*** since January. Since then I have taken off my winter fleece, I may have shown a tiny bit of 60+ cleavage.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

Sorry, I simply do not agree. I don’t see many of these immigrants actually working.

I am based in London. Looking at what some might disparagingly call low level type jobs, I see shop workers, Uber drivers, bar workers and all manner of other people who seem to me, to be of East European or Asian background. Hospitals are full of mainly female nurses of foreign extraction. (Why British people seem unable or unwilling to do these types of work is another question).

I’m not necessarily supporting the Government but logistics and economics are clear, we just cannot continue with such an influx of people looking for handouts.

Well which is it? Influx of people looking for handouts or people coming to work and do the jobs British people seem unable or unwilling to do. Anyone who genuinely believes foreigners come here because they want to live on benefits needs to try doing so themselves. It's not fun. I fail to see why the reason why Brits won't do the work is another question for another day.

 

[qprbeth]

Glad Dorries and Boris have the same tweet writer too...gives you confidence that they mean it.
Nadine Dorries And PM's Identical Tweets About Rayner Are 'Not Surprising', Minister Claims | HuffPost" https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/boris-johnson-nadine-dorries-identical-tweets-rayner_uk_62663c9ee4b0dc52f498de80/

For goodness sake Beth.
Johnson has completely denounced this nonesense, calling it misogyny.
It's the MPs and The Mail that you should be calling out for their sexism.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

A Ukranian mum and kids are desperate to get home to their menfolk. And while they're in the UK won't stab people or blow them up

Not one of your better contributions.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Not one of your better contributions.

Maybe you can explain why you think that. Ukrainian refugees offer no threat to the people of this country, and it's highly unlikely that second generation would either, in the unlikely event they stay here and don't return to their own country.

Compare with the large number of British men, women and children who have been murdered here by second generation Islamics. This is fact. Such is the maelstrom that is the Middle East, we can expect these domestic attacks to continue for as long as the UK contributes to the fight against terrorists in the Middle East.

So for me, there are some countries like Libya and Pakistan from which we need to keep immigration to a minimum and instead help the Ukraine's and, who knows, the Moldovas of this world.

 

[IwasanotherwatfordR]

Well which is it? Influx of people looking for handouts or people coming to work and do the jobs British people seem unable or unwilling to do. Anyone who genuinely believes foreigners come here because they want to live on benefits needs to try doing so themselves. It's not fun. I fail to see why the reason why Brits won't do the work is another question for another day.

Well I am pretty sure our benefits systems, with healthcare, education and housing eclipse those of (say) Somalia, Sudan etc. Sufficiently so that people will risk their lives getting here to partake of that support system. Again, how many such migrants do you see actually working? My, admittedly limited experience, is that I have seen all sorts of races and creeds working and contributing (which any reasonable person would surely welcome) but I do not see the likes of the dinghy patrons doing so. Sorry, but the harsh reality is that many of the people coming to the UK illegally from France do so for economic reasons only. At the risk of boring repetition, if they are here claiming asylum from persecution (which is the only legal basis they can have to remain) then why not stay in France?

 

[rangercol]

You missed my point there Col.

The mail assumed that Boris would be "distracted " by a woman crossing her legs.
Wot really!!!!


For goodness sake Col..is it real that men are so easily distracted by a woman crossing their legs, that they cannot concentrate to answer Prime Ministers Question Time!

No wonder QPR have been so s*** since January. Since then I have taken off my winter fleece, I may have shown a tiny bit of 60+ cleavage.

Beth.....it's made up!!!

 

[Wherever]

You missed my point there Col.

The mail assumed that Boris would be "distracted " by a woman crossing her legs.
Wot really!!!!


For goodness sake Col..is it real that men are so easily distracted by a woman crossing their legs, that they cannot concentrate to answer Prime Ministers Question Time!

No wonder QPR have been so s*** since January. Since then I have taken off my winter fleece, I may have shown a tiny bit of 60+ cleavage.

So has Col

 

[bobmid]

Well I am pretty sure our benefits systems, with healthcare, education and housing eclipse those of (say) Somalia, Sudan etc. Sufficiently so that people will risk their lives getting here to partake of that support system. Again, how many such migrants do you see actually working? My, admittedly limited experience, is that I have seen all sorts of races and creeds working and contributing (which any reasonable person would surely welcome) but I do not see the likes of the dinghy patrons doing so. Sorry, but the harsh reality is that many of the people coming to the UK illegally from France do so for economic reasons only. At the risk of boring repetition, if they are here claiming asylum from persecution (which is the only legal basis they can have to remain) then why not stay in France?

I think its because they cant claim asylum for the uk without being in the uk, hence trying anyway to get here. I maybe wrong mind. Got a few things wrong already and its only monday!