we definitely do rely on russian gas supplies. Why do you think our energy prices are going through the roof goldie, maybe not as reliant but definitely still need the russian gas.
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we definitely do rely on russian gas supplies. Why do you think our energy prices are going through the roof goldie, maybe not as reliant but definitely still need the russian gas.
In other news mauritius wants its island back after we kicked their inhabitants out to make a u.s. military base.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-60378487.amp
Even with UN support, Uk are currently giving them the big F U
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-60378487.amp
Even with UN support, Uk are currently giving them the big F U
I got married in Mauritius……lovely place. Shame about the marriage.
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Yes, we get that much directly from russia (some article quoting 5% but whatever) but overall we import around 40% from europe. Guess where these guys get their gas from or will buy from if russia doesnt supply and who is affected in this chain.
Sledgehammer to crack a nut ???????
Trudeau vows to freeze anti-mandate protesters' bank accounts
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Watch: Justin Trudeau explains why he's taking extreme measures to stop protesters.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has taken the unprecedented step of invoking the Emergencies Act to crack down on anti-vaccine mandate protests.
Mr Trudeau said the scope of the measures would be "time-limited", "reasonable and proportionate" and would not see the military deployed.
With no need for a court order, banks will be able freeze personal accounts of anyone linked with the protests.
Hundreds of demonstrators remain in Canada's capital city.
On Sunday, law enforcement cleared anti-mandate protesters at the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor - a critical pathway for Canada-US trade - after a week-long stalemate.
What began as a rally against a new rule that all truckers must be vaccinated to cross the US-Canada border, or quarantine upon return, has grown into a broader challenge to all Covid health restrictions.
"This is about keeping Canadians safe, protecting people's jobs," Mr Trudeau told a news conference on Monday.
He said the police would be given "more tools" to imprison or fine protesters and protect critical infrastructure.
Mr Trudeau told reporters the legislation would be applied temporarily and in a highly specific manner.
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Critics have noted that the prime minister voiced support for farmers in India who blocked major highways to New Delhi for a year in 2021, saying at the time: "Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful protest."
Mr Trudeau's invoking of the Emergencies Act comes as demonstrations across Canada enter their third week.
EXPLAINER: What powers will Emergencies Act give Trudeau?
AT THE SCENE: After police raid, what next for Canada protests?
Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said at Monday's news conference that banks would be able freeze personal accounts of anyone linked with the protests without any need for a court order.
Vehicle insurance of anyone involved with the demonstrations can also be suspended, she added.
Ms Freeland said they were broadening Canada's "Terrorist Financing" rules to cover cryptocurrencies and crowdfunding platforms, as part of the effort.
"It's all about following the money," she said.
She spoke after hackers released details of what they said were 93,000 donations for the truckers totalling $8.4m (£6.2m) to the crowdfunding platform GiveSendGo.
The Emergencies Act, passed in 1988, requires a high legal bar to be invoked. It may only be used in an "urgent and critical situation" that "seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians". Lawful protests do not qualify.
Speaking on Monday, Canada's Justice Minister David Lametti argued these conditions had been met.
But the Canadian Civil Liberties Association disagreed, warning that the move "threatens our democracy and our civil liberties".
Ottawa protest leader Tamara Lich dismissed Mr Trudeau's move, telling AP News: "There are no threats that will frighten us. We will hold the line."
Ontario Premier Doug Ford, a Conservative, said he supported the federal government.
But the premiers of Quebec, Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan said the emergency powers were not needed in their regions.
Before Mr Trudeau's announcement, Quebec Premier Francois Legault said invoking the Emergencies Act could "throw oil on the fire".
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Will Trudeau succeed?
Analysis by Jessica Murphy, BBC News, Toronto
Under growing pressure to bring the disruptive protests to an end - be it from the White House or increasingly frustrated Canadians - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has entered uncharted territory with the decision to invoke the never-before-used 1988 Emergencies Act, the country's most powerful tool for when it is facing a national emergency.
The powers announced by Mr Trudeau go into effect immediately - but his government has to present it to the House of Parliament and the Senate within a week and needs a green-light or the proclamation would be revoked.
All main Canadian federal political party leaders have said it's time for the protests - which have had an impact on supply chains, the national economy and the country's relations with the US - to end.
But they aren't all necessarily on board with Mr Trudeau's unprecedented move.
Conservative leader Candice Bergen voiced concern it could inflame the situation.
The support of NDP leader Jagmeet Singh may give Mr Trudeau enough votes to pass it through the House - though the Senate could still be a hurdle.
Is Trudeau losing his fight against truckers?
Protests are ongoing in various parts of the country.
In Ottawa, the nation's capital, between 400 to 500 trucks have been parked in the city centre for 18 days.
Protesters have also been blockading border crossing at Coutts, Alberta, and Emerson, Manitoba.
On Monday, Alberta police arrested 11 people and seized a cache of guns and other weapons.
Weekend protests have also taken place in cities including Toronto and Winnipeg
Trudeau vows to freeze anti-mandate protesters' bank accounts
Published3 hours ago
Share
Related Topics
Coronavirus pandemic
Media caption,
Watch: Justin Trudeau explains why he's taking extreme measures to stop protesters.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has taken the unprecedented step of invoking the Emergencies Act to crack down on anti-vaccine mandate protests.
Mr Trudeau said the scope of the measures would be "time-limited", "reasonable and proportionate" and would not see the military deployed.
With no need for a court order, banks will be able freeze personal accounts of anyone linked with the protests.
Hundreds of demonstrators remain in Canada's capital city.
On Sunday, law enforcement cleared anti-mandate protesters at the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor - a critical pathway for Canada-US trade - after a week-long stalemate.
What began as a rally against a new rule that all truckers must be vaccinated to cross the US-Canada border, or quarantine upon return, has grown into a broader challenge to all Covid health restrictions.
"This is about keeping Canadians safe, protecting people's jobs," Mr Trudeau told a news conference on Monday.
He said the police would be given "more tools" to imprison or fine protesters and protect critical infrastructure.
Mr Trudeau told reporters the legislation would be applied temporarily and in a highly specific manner.
ADVERTISEMENT
Critics have noted that the prime minister voiced support for farmers in India who blocked major highways to New Delhi for a year in 2021, saying at the time: "Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful protest."
Mr Trudeau's invoking of the Emergencies Act comes as demonstrations across Canada enter their third week.
EXPLAINER: What powers will Emergencies Act give Trudeau?
AT THE SCENE: After police raid, what next for Canada protests?
Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said at Monday's news conference that banks would be able freeze personal accounts of anyone linked with the protests without any need for a court order.
Vehicle insurance of anyone involved with the demonstrations can also be suspended, she added.
Ms Freeland said they were broadening Canada's "Terrorist Financing" rules to cover cryptocurrencies and crowdfunding platforms, as part of the effort.
"It's all about following the money," she said.
She spoke after hackers released details of what they said were 93,000 donations for the truckers totalling $8.4m (£6.2m) to the crowdfunding platform GiveSendGo.
The Emergencies Act, passed in 1988, requires a high legal bar to be invoked. It may only be used in an "urgent and critical situation" that "seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians". Lawful protests do not qualify.
Speaking on Monday, Canada's Justice Minister David Lametti argued these conditions had been met.
But the Canadian Civil Liberties Association disagreed, warning that the move "threatens our democracy and our civil liberties".
Ottawa protest leader Tamara Lich dismissed Mr Trudeau's move, telling AP News: "There are no threats that will frighten us. We will hold the line."
Ontario Premier Doug Ford, a Conservative, said he supported the federal government.
But the premiers of Quebec, Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan said the emergency powers were not needed in their regions.
Before Mr Trudeau's announcement, Quebec Premier Francois Legault said invoking the Emergencies Act could "throw oil on the fire".
1px transparent line
Will Trudeau succeed?
Analysis by Jessica Murphy, BBC News, Toronto
Under growing pressure to bring the disruptive protests to an end - be it from the White House or increasingly frustrated Canadians - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has entered uncharted territory with the decision to invoke the never-before-used 1988 Emergencies Act, the country's most powerful tool for when it is facing a national emergency.
The powers announced by Mr Trudeau go into effect immediately - but his government has to present it to the House of Parliament and the Senate within a week and needs a green-light or the proclamation would be revoked.
All main Canadian federal political party leaders have said it's time for the protests - which have had an impact on supply chains, the national economy and the country's relations with the US - to end.
But they aren't all necessarily on board with Mr Trudeau's unprecedented move.
Conservative leader Candice Bergen voiced concern it could inflame the situation.
The support of NDP leader Jagmeet Singh may give Mr Trudeau enough votes to pass it through the House - though the Senate could still be a hurdle.
Is Trudeau losing his fight against truckers?
Protests are ongoing in various parts of the country.
In Ottawa, the nation's capital, between 400 to 500 trucks have been parked in the city centre for 18 days.
Protesters have also been blockading border crossing at Coutts, Alberta, and Emerson, Manitoba.
On Monday, Alberta police arrested 11 people and seized a cache of guns and other weapons.
Weekend protests have also taken place in cities including Toronto and Winnipeg
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I don't think that's right, Bobby. Half of UK gas comes from the North and Irish sea. A third from Norway which is a seller not buyer of gas. The rest comes by container ship from places like the Middle East in liquified form.
See, there's a war we might win. Think we could smash the might Mauritians? Just don't send Truss to the talking - she'd think we were fighting Martians!
Had to refer to a guardian article to get thr above. Previous article i read had norway within the europe imports.
Either way if russia turns off the tap, even though we dont take too much russian gas, the germans and everyone else will go to norway to get it as well as competing for the lng shipments. That will have a huge knock on effect for us but thats globalization for you
Russia states some troops are returning from the border.
Vlad could be playing a blinder here
Vlad could be playing a blinder here
Except there is now a huge NATO troop build up on the Russian border, and more US troops are flying into Poland as we speak...
But he gets the Ukraine/NATO question firmly on the table, makes the West look paranoid and shows Russia has got the military might to invade if necessary.
He can’t do anything about the states already in NATO so don’t think that would concern him.
Hmm, not sure. If this is just a scare, don't be surprised to see NATO assurances given to Ukraine about it's future and an increase in missiles in the NATO countries bordering Russia. Ukraine is already saying in relation to the Russian military build up, see, this is why we want to be a member of NATO.
It's going to be fascinating to see how this plays out - but, of course, horrifying if hostilities are involved.
It’s still in the balance but it looks like, to me anyway, that Putin is holding all the cards. US intelligence still saying an invasion is imminent and gonna happen in the early hours of tomorrow……surely they must have some concrete evidence of that…….otherwise they look totally stupid and on the face of it, stoking up the possibility of conflict.
It’s all a game of chess
Russian troops moving away...is this just a ploy for a quick change of direction and an invasion Stainsey.
I really don’t know Beth……It very well could be. Im really in two minds about it all…..Surely the US couldn’t and wouldn’t be THAT specific if they didn’t have some kind of damning evidence that an invasion was imminent. And if they are wrong, it makes them look rather silly and Putin would then be able to say “I told you so”
I am thinking the Americans are being setting themselves for a fall...here. Even if Putin is thinking of invading...politically he wins if he doesn't do it at exactly 6 am tomorrow morning!
And Boris is just talking up a storm ...aka Thatcher and the Falklands
If we don't get a war against Russia tomorrow, can see us going to war with the Maldives...the b******s put their flag up over OUR Chagos islands yesterday. Lets Nuke them back to the Stone Age
Or the US and U.K. deliberately gave Putin the chance to make them look foolish…..and avoid a conflict in the process.
If you try and think this **** through from every angle you could end up as a gibbering wreck……
Interesting column by William Hague in todays Times, who met Putin a few times, on his motivations on ‘uniting’ the Russian peoples (he regards the Ukrainians as Russians) before he gets too old….whether this be through absorbing them into Russia or having them as a satellite state like Belarus.
Personally I think he’s just another bloke drunk on power, a keen level of paranoia and with a weird sense of ‘destiny’. He must also be acutely aware of how it will all collapse around very quickly if things go wrong, he knows well enough that his country is an economic, social and legal basket case ready, largely because of him.
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