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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
That’s the best you’ve seen him recently… bloody hell

I’d agree Starmer was taking way too long to get out some **** gags. Could and should have been way more matter of fact and cutting.
I thought starmer had a great gag with 'boo's' but as usual went flat and had nothing important to say. The mentioning of the Queen stunk of desperation.
David Davis has just stuck the knife in.
 
I thought starmer had a great gag with 'boo's' but as usual went flat and had nothing important to say. The mentioning of the Queen stunk of desperation.
David Davis has just stuck the knife in.

Starmer was just tame party joke after another, I was waiting for someone to shout he’s behind you.

He’s mentioned the queen and Philips funeral previously at pmqs hasn’t he? I think it has to be mentioned as it does set out the mood of the nation at the time, however once is enough.
 
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Starmer was just tame party joke after another, I was waiting for someone to shout he’s behind you.

He’s mentioned the queen and Philips funeral previously at pmqs hasn’t he? I think it has to be mentioned as it does set out the mood of the nation at the time, however once is enough.
It's not normal for them to mention the Queen to add effect to a question. He knows that.
However
David Davis will be the talking point now. He is another Tory that has a following of a few MP's. Before he got up and spoke I thought Boris would ride this... now that could be the killer blow.
 
It's not normal for them to mention the Queen to add effect to a question. He knows that.
However
David Davis will be the talking point now. He is another Tory that has a following of a few MP's. Before he got up and spoke I thought Boris would ride this... now that could be the killer blow.
What did davis say, ive missed it all
 
The vast majority of politicians do have integrity. It's predominately Johnson and his Brexit Party government that have none.

What are your favourite Johnson lies? Here are some of mine:

£350 million a week to the NHS
Turkey joining the EU
An EU Army
No border in the Irish Sea
Lower food prices outside the EU
Lower energy prices outside the EU
Scrap VAT on energy bills
Easiest trade deal in history
We got Brexit done (it's still not done)

The Partygate lies are inconsequential compared to these.

Strolls, with respect, are you still obsessed by Brexit ?
And on your first statement I’d humbly disagree….in my opinion most politicians don’t in anyway have an ounce of integrity in their rotten bones…….the vast majority are in it as ‘career politicians’ and couldn’t give a **** about the public.
Gone are the days of good men like Tony Benn.
 
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Oh dear, i really dont know why Johnson is dragging this out.
I explained that the other day.
its quite simple...
Labour want him gone because they will never win with him in charge.
Tories don't have a proper relacement yet. Who will vote for Raab or a Gove? So it's a big risk to get rid of him.
Boris is a serial winner even when he is down. If he gets over this people will move on. That's what some are hoping for.

What does make me laugh is this defection... Is there no difference from a Tory and Labour now?
 
I explained that the other day.
its quite simple...
Labour want him gone because they will never win with him in charge.
Tories don't have a proper relacement yet. Who will vote for Raab or a Gove? So it's a big risk to get rid of him.
Boris is a serial winner even when he is down. If he gets over this people will move on. That's what some are hoping for.

What does make me laugh is this defection... Is there no difference from a Tory and Labour now?
I disagree, i believe labour have a much better chance of winning with Johnson in charge. What won him the last election has been well and truly found out now.
 
I disagree, i believe labour have a much better chance of winning with Johnson in charge. What won him the last election has been well and truly found out now.

Precisely. I reckon Labour would much prefer Johnson to fight the next election. I was thinking that today's defection may actually help Johnson to save his skin for a while, but I think Davis has now done for him.
 
I disagree, i believe labour have a much better chance of winning with Johnson in charge. What won him the last election has been well and truly found out now.
This is where we will differ Bob. I reckon the Tories could put up a household brick and beat Starmer.
Interesting that after PMQs we had the government response to PlanB/restrictions and all Labour MPs could say was "blah blah blah Party"... talking about flogging a dead horse! Even a Tory MP mentioned it. They don't have any decent credible policies and as Boris pointed out Starmer has been wrong at ever important decision. That's what should hit home to voters.
When people vote at an election in 2 years I doubt they will be thinking of a party in 2020 but how their lives are at that moment in time. If all Labour can do is go on about a party then sooner or later people will get bored.
 
I disagree, i believe labour have a much better chance of winning with Johnson in charge. What won him the last election has been well and truly found out now.

Totally agree….people are beginning to see through the bumbling persona and seeing the **** for what he is.
As Billy Bragg quite rightly said…. ‘just ‘cos he’s cuddly, he’s still a Tory’
 
So what’s peoples thoughts on the impending invasion of Ukraine by Putin and his comrades ? Is it the usual bluster and knob waving from our favourite Russkie despot or, as many believe, finally gonna happen and have the potential to be the spark for a global conflict.
Could this be the beginning of the end for civilisation or just another page in the history books……any thoughts or are we all still wrapped up in Boris and his parties ?
Hello young sir

Putin might get to annex a bit of east Ukraine, parts of the country not under Ukrainian government control now, claim a massive victory at home, the west sanctions a few individuals and sells more weapons to Ukraine. West has already withdrawn the threat of cutting Russian banks out of the international clearing system.

This seems to me to be much more about Putin’s waning popularity at home, the need for diversions. He knows the Russian economy couldn’t survive a ‘proper’ war.

If things start looking really dodgy for him it’s horribly possible that he could do something nuts. I hope not this time at least.
 
This is where we will differ Bob. I reckon the Tories could put up a household brick and beat Starmer.
Interesting that after PMQs we had the government response to PlanB/restrictions and all Labour MPs could say was "blah blah blah Party"... talking about flogging a dead horse! Even a Tory MP mentioned it. They don't have any decent credible policies and as Boris pointed out Starmer has been wrong at ever important decision. That's what should hit home to voters.
When people vote at an election in 2 years I doubt they will be thinking of a party in 2020 but how their lives are at that moment in time. If all Labour can do is go on about a party then sooner or later people will get bored.
Did you say credible policies? As in policies a party would put in their manifesto to entice voters? Believe me, the North wont be voting for this mockery again. Once bitten, twice as shy!
 
Did you say credible policies? As in policies a party would put in their manifesto to entice voters? Believe me, the North wont be voting for this mockery again. Once bitten, twice as shy!
The reason the North turned away from labour was because of Jezza and Captain 2nd referendum. As the country starts getting better they wont want to change.
 
The reason the North turned away from labour was because of Jezza and Captain 2nd referendum. As the country starts getting better they wont want to change.

Do you not think captain incompetent, corrupt bullshitter will have turned them off the Torys? And one selling point for the some of the demographic has been done