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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I disagree with your first sentence.
It's pretty much common knowledge that most people vote in general elections for selfish reasons.
Could be tax, jobs, NHS, etc etc. We vote for the policies we agree with and think will help us and ours best.
That doesn't mean one is culpable for everything that government does imo.

absolutely this. It was between Tory and UKIP for brexit and your biggest priority was brexit and not Johnson so I see why you voted that way Col.
 
I disagree with your first sentence.
It's pretty much common knowledge that most people vote in general elections for selfish reasons.
Could be tax, jobs, NHS, etc etc. We vote for the policies we agree with and think will help us and ours best.
That doesn't mean one is culpable for everything that government does imo.

I can fully accept that your vote was based on Brexit, but the fact remains that you knowingly voted for a proven liar.
 
No wonder he self isolates with the amount of party’s he goes to.

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If Boris Johnson attended the party or lied to Parliament, he should resign. This is a classic case of a politician whom, having blown weak opposition out of the water and achieved a massive majority, has let power go to his head and felt the laws his government made didn't apply to him. The Tory MP's must be coralling now and looking at numbers for a vote of no confidence.

I see Labour is looking to spread the net further by asking, what about the bloke living next door, surely he saw what was going on? Sunak will have to make his position clear to the Tories, and personally, I hope he's in the clear, because i'd be happy to see him at No 10.
 
If Boris Johnson attended the party or lied to Parliament, he should resign. This is a classic case of a politician whom, having blown weak opposition out of the water and achieved a massive majority, has let power go to his head and felt the laws his government made didn't apply to him. The Tory MP's must be coralling now and looking at numbers for a vote of no confidence.


I see Labour is looking to spread the net further by asking, what about the bloke living next door, surely he saw what was going on? Sunak will have to make his position clear to the Tories, and personally, I hope he's in the clear, because i'd be happy to see him at No 10.

I would like to see Labour come up with some policies rather than spending all their time bitching about the government. We can all see what is happening here.
 
I would like to see Labour come up with some policies rather than spending all their time bitching about the government. We can all see what is happening here.

Yes, its all negative stuff from the Labour Party, and I don't know what they stand for. And we have to await the report by Gray. But IF Boris has done what he's accused of, I can't see how he can cling on. And his backbenchers won't accept anything less.
 
I disagree with your first sentence.
It's pretty much common knowledge that most people vote in general elections for selfish reasons.
Could be tax, jobs, NHS, etc etc. We vote for the policies we agree with and think will help us and ours best.
That doesn't mean one is culpable for everything that government does imo.

Not everything no, sorry didn’t mean that. However Johnson’s job history shows he’s been sacked twice for being a stranger to the truth amongst a series of serious professional and personality flaws, in that respect it can’t be a surprise those have become apparent since he became PM.

I can’t think of another candidate who has even close to the checkered history Johnson has, certainly nobody whose been sacked for telling so many lies.

Anyway let’s hope he’s removed and held accountable for his actions and a serious politician gets the job.
 
I hope you are not in denial here Stroller? If this turns out to be legit then the opposition leader who is slating the PM for breaking rules is a hypocrite.
You can't have both ways... one rule for them and all.

Any context or date to that video?
 
Not everything no, sorry didn’t mean that. However Johnson’s job history shows he’s been sacked twice for being a stranger to the truth amongst a series of serious professional and personality flaws, in that respect it can’t be a surprise those have become apparent since he became PM.

I can’t think of another candidate who has even close to the checkered history Johnson has, certainly nobody whose been sacked for telling so many lies.

Anyway let’s hope he’s removed and held accountable for his actions and a serious politician gets the job.

You might blame the Tory faithful for choosing him as leader, but once he was, who were the electorate supposed to vote for. Corbyn's antisemitic party?
 
You might blame the Tory faithful for choosing him as leader, but once he was, who were the electorate supposed to vote for. Corbyn's antisemitic party?

You do know per party member the Torys had substantially more complaints about racism/xenophobia/religious bigotry right? So if you are going to call Labour at that point the anti Semitic party, for sake of fairness you’d have to call the Conservative party at the time the bigoted party.
 
You might blame the Tory faithful for choosing him as leader, but once he was, who were the electorate supposed to vote for. Corbyn's antisemitic party?
I can understand why people voted for johnson. He was/is full of character, made policies that appealed to certain folk (despite not delivering on them) and as you say, Corbyn was the only other choice.
He has been found out now, for the charlatan he is. For the sake of the Tory party, but much more for the sake of the UK, this man has to and deserves to go!
 
I can understand why people voted for johnson. He was/is full of character, made policies that appealed to certain folk (despite not delivering on them) and as you say, Corbyn was the only other choice.
He has been found out now, for the charlatan he is. For the sake of the Tory party, but much more for the sake of the UK, this man has to and deserves to go!

You may be right, Bob. Let's wait the publication of Gray's report. It should be produced in a timely manner, not kicked into the long grass.
 
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Yes, its all negative stuff from the Labour Party, and I don't know what they stand for. And we have to await the report by Gray. But IF Boris has done what he's accused of, I can't see how he can cling on. And his backbenchers won't accept anything less.
Agree we shall have to wait. As I said is a drip feed of information. They sat on this for 2 years. A job well done by the left.

What bugs me is the hypocrisy of people. Today I have listed to Burley/Rigby/Blackford and read quotes from Starmer… all of whom broke lockdown rules. I’m actually surprised they could actually say what they have with a straight face.
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You may be right, Bob. Let's wait the publication of Gray's report. It should be produced in a timely manner, not kicked into the long grass.

As someone said in the Commons just now, she'll get it done more quickly if she investigates the days when there weren't any parties.

Why shouldn't Johnson just put the record straight now? He knows if there was a party on 20th May and he knows if he was there or not.