Off Topic The Politics Thread

[Willhoops]

You would say that.

Yes I would because that’s the clear evidence put in front of me.

 

[ELLERS]

Blimey, Ed Millibland has more charisma than Mr. Woodentop... shame his speech will be in vain.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

I don't understand how the EU expecting the UK to adhere to a treaty it signed up to under 12 months ago could be characterised as a "veiled threat" - there is nothing hidden, secret or veiled about a treaty, written in black and white with unambiguous meaning, which the UK voluntarily signed up to.

There's also nothing threatening about something happening which the UK Government - again, voluntarily - signed up to itself in October.

There was no "veiled threat" from the EU to interfere with trade between NI and the UK, simply a binding promise from both sides that trade between the NI and the UK would be interrupted to some degree as a way of ensuring the N/S border in Ireland is frictionless.

Come now. Perhaps they didn't understand it in the language it was written in.

 

[ELLERS]

Yes I would because that’s the clear evidence put in front of me.

Wills if any positive government evidence was put in front of you... you would find a way to reject it. That's just you. I have never seen you post anything positive when it comes to Brexit/Boris/Tories/government.

 

[bobmid]

A bit stupid as he shouldn't ask the PM to answer. Just a cheap trick.

That worked an absolute treat

 

[ELLERS]

That worked an absolute treat

May have done it for you. But for me, he was overacting, just playing up for the cameras.
I'm sure the MSM will be creaming themselves over it though.

 

[Willhoops]

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[bobmid]

May have done it for you. But for me, he was overacting, just playing up for the cameras.
I'm sure the MSM will be creaming themselves over it though.

It was brilliantly timed and had, in my opinion, the desired effect. To embarrass someone over their lack of knowledge and detail.

 

[Willhoops]

It was brilliantly timed and had, in my opinion, the desired effect. To embarrass someone over their lack of knowledge and detail.

fancy a grouse shoot mate

 

[ELLERS]

There was one moment when the camera was on Bojo that looked like he was thinking about what was being said. You almost got the impression that he sort of agreed with Millibland. He then got up and left the chamber.

 

[ELLERS]

It was brilliantly timed and had, in my opinion, the desired effect. To embarrass someone over their lack of knowledge and detail.

He doesn't lack knowledge. he knows exactly what he is doing and he will get the bill through.

 

[rangercol]

You should start a thread about it.

Why's that?

 

[Willhoops]

He doesn't lack knowledge. he knows exactly what he is doing and he will get the bill through.

If he knew exactly what he was doing why did he sign an agreement he doesn’t agree with? Seems odd.

 

[ELLERS]

If he knew exactly what he was doing why did he sign an agreement he doesn’t agree with? Seems odd.

My guess is that he either believed that the EU would act in good faith or he believed that he could sign it and was always going to change it? Only he knows. However, there is information coming out now that the EU has not helped matters.

 

[bobmid]

He doesn't lack knowledge. he knows exactly what he is doing and he will get the bill through.

A rather imboysilic post that. Along with your comparison to Johnson hiding in a fridge and Starmer following guidelines due to a pandemic.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

We've seen what Goldy's evidence threshold is - some reported comments from an unnamed source in a newspaper, which justified breaking international law.

I've heard Goldy was also advising the Blair Government in the early 2000s.

Come now. Perhaps. Boris only had 45 minutes to read it because the Americans told him that they had incontrovertible evidence that Barnier had a WMD which he would fire at 10 Downing Street unlees Boris signed first.

It's an agreement that was signed by our government because they were happy with it. It's not a skeletal agreement or however you wish to describe it to suit your point of view. It's a signed agreement by two parties which the government themselves put into law.

I thought it was around 600 pages- some bleedin' skeleton

 

[bobmid]

If he knew exactly what he was doing why did he sign an agreement he doesn’t agree with? Seems odd.

If there is bad faith then it's in the WA to act accordingly. This is unnecessary for what Johnson claims.the insurance is written into the agreement.

 

[ELLERS]

A rather imboysilic post that. Along with your comparison to Johnson hiding in a fridge and Starmer following guidelines due to a pandemic.

Bob you need to come up with your own words (if you can)

 

[Willhoops]

My guess is that he either believed that the EU would act in good faith or he believed that he could sign it and was always going to change it? Only he knows. However, there is information coming out now that the EU has not helped matters.

sorry that’s nonsense you don’t sign a binding agreement, which is exactly what it is, which he used as part of an election campaign to only go back and say well actually... if you needed future amendments you’d have put that capability within the document to start with, it’s simple business practice and involved in most tender agreements I deal with.

 

[bobmid]

Bob you need to come up with your own words (if you can)

Only borrowed it. You can have it back now