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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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The government now want people to grass on each other regarding the rule of 6. Best be careful
<doh> Did you not hear Ed Milliband today? That's the oppositions stance as well... Or is it? Today it is... Yesterday it wasn't and who knows what it will be tomorrow? We will have to wait and hear from Sir Kier... Oh crap he is in quarantine!<doh>
 
From February of this year. Eerily accurate when you read Cox's Times article, Braverman's new 'advice' and the IM Bill.

I guess we should have seen it coming when Johnson repeatedly lied about the provisions of the NI Protocol throughout the election.


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Isn't this just the sort of unaccredited newspaper report that you were saying last week was untrustworthy?
 
No response on the video Watford? Your mate Barnier who you trust more than your own negotiating team?
I would like to see you try and defend this.

He’s not my mate whereas you pay to be a Tory member.

What’s your issue with it? I’m struggling to see where the hanging offence is in that short clip.
 
What's your point?

I would have thought the following speaks for itself:

DavidGHFrost:
https://www.not606.com/DavidGHFrost
On 3rd country listings: the EU knows perfectly well all the details of our food standards rules because we are operating EU rules. The situation on 1.1.21 is accordingly perfectly clear. We have discussed this frequently with the EU including last week.

Any changes in future would be notified to the WTO and EU in the usual way with plenty of lead time. The EU lists dozens of countries globally on precisely this basis, without any sort of commitment about the future.

Yet it has been made clear to us in the current talks that there is no guarantee of listing us. I am afraid it has also been said to us explicitly in these talks that if we are not listed we will not be able to move food to Northern Ireland.

The EU's position is that listing is needed for Great Britain only, not Northern Ireland. So if GB were not listed, it would be automatically illegal for NI to import food products from GB.
 
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He’s not my mate whereas you pay to be a Tory member.

What’s your issue with it? I’m struggling to see where the hanging offence is in that short clip.
What's the issue with it? Really Watford you are defending the indefencible. You need to say sometimes ’yeah I was wrong’ or ’yeah I agree’. You sound like you think you are always right and can't ever be wrong?
 
What's the issue with it? Really Watford you are defending the indefencible. You need to say sometimes ’yeah I was wrong’ or ’yeah I agree’. You sound like you think you are always right and can't ever be wrong?

So, what is the hanging offence?

I’m sure I’m often wrong and there are undoubtedly people far more knowledgeable on all things politics and Brexit here than me. Maybe even including the Brexiteers. The vaguely rational ones rather than the crying, emotive ones.
 
I would have thought the following speaks for itself:

DavidGHFrost:
On 3rd country listings: the EU knows perfectly well all the details of our food standards rules because we are operating EU rules. The situation on 1.1.21 is accordingly perfectly clear. We have discussed this frequently with the EU including last week.

Any changes in future would be notified to the WTO and EU in the usual way with plenty of lead time. The EU lists dozens of countries globally on precisely this basis, without any sort of commitment about the future.

Yet it has been made clear to us in the current talks that there is no guarantee of listing us. I am afraid it has also been said to us explicitly in these talks that if we are not listed we will not be able to move food to Northern Ireland.

The EU's position is that listing is needed for Great Britain only, not Northern Ireland. So if GB were not listed, it would be automatically illegal for NI to import food products from GB.

Exactly. <applause>
 
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<doh> Did you not hear Ed Milliband today? That's the oppositions stance as well... Or is it? Today it is... Yesterday it wasn't and who knows what it will be tomorrow? We will have to wait and hear from Sir Kier... Oh crap he is in quarantine!<doh>
All grasses
Would you grass Ellers?
 
Like I've said before, opposition parties dont need to say or do anything. Just let the government continue with cock up after cock up. If it wasnst so tragic, it would be hilarious.
Johnson needs an enemy to attack, it's in his and his parties nature, seems like they are turning on each other now so best leaving them to it.
 
Like I've said before, opposition parties dont need to say or do anything. Just let the government continue with cock up after cock up. If it wasnst so tragic, it would be hilarious.
What utter stupidity this post is! The opposition should stand by and watch?
This is why you really sound stupid sometimes bob.
 
What utter stupidity this post is! The opposition should stand by and watch?
This is why you really sound stupid sometimes bob.
Thanks Ellers that's a compliment coming from you mate. I'm glad I only sound stupid sometimes, sounding stupid all the time must really do your head in.
 
So did or did the government write and sign the agreement? Is it not the same government who paused legislative process to enable this to go through despite calls for further scrutiny? And is it not the aforementioned government now stating they will break international law to break the agreement?

And yet this is someone else’s fault?
 
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So did or did the government write and sign the agreement? Is it not the same government who paused legislative process to enable this to go through despite calls for further scrutiny? And is it not the aforementioned government now stating they will break international law to break the agreement?

And yet this is someone else’s fault?
Some are more bothered (for some bizarre reason) that Starmer hasnt said anything!
 
Thanks Ellers that's a compliment coming from you mate. I'm glad I only sound stupid sometimes, sounding stupid all the time must really do your head in.
Not really, when I read posts like yours It reminds me of who I am debating with.