You cannot keep blaming Labour's failures on a stupid electorate. It's probably one of the most sophisticated electorates in the world. May be you just don't like democracy, Watford
I’m just stating an unfortunate fact. I totally get people not buying into Corbyn and wanting Brexit desperately last time. But we have become a more right wing country and there’s only so many people a good, intelligent left of centre leader can convince no matter how much of a **** show the country is at any given time or how clearly out of their depth our chosen one policy government have proven themselves to be. I like Starmer a lot but I’m not optimistic. There’s absolutely nothing sophisticated about our electorate.
Boris' bungling is handing a big advantage to the Nats.... Scots slam Boris Johnson's handling of coronavirus crisis in damning verdict Record readers delivered a damning verdict on the way the PM has managed us through the pandemic and his leadership skills while Nicola Sturgeon came out on top. Boris Johnson’s handling of the Covid-19 crisis has been slammed by Scots. They delivered a damning verdict on the way the PM has managed us through the pandemic and his leadership skills in a hard-hitting poll for the Daily Record. And it was clear from the survey who Scots trust - with Nicola Sturgeon rated the best-performing politician. Johnson’s Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Scotland’s stand-in chief medical officer Gregor Smith even scored higher than the Tory leader in our exclusive poll. The Great Big Lockdown Survey, powered by doopoll, was run by the Record between April 30 and May 5 to capture a snapshot of life in Scotland during this historic period of lockdown Almost 10,000 of our readers responded. And the results showed: ● Half of Scots would pay more tax to help ease the crisis. ● More than a quarter have lost half their household income. ● The majority believe lockdown came too late. ● And many believe restrictions are here for a long time to come. When our readers were asked to rate the handling of the crisis by political leaders and some other senior figures, they strongly backed the First Minister - with an average score of 6.5 out of 10 for Sturgeon. Sunak scored 5.8, Smith 5.7, and Scottish Health Secretary Jeane Freeman rated 5.1 - but Johnson came bottom with 4.8. Overall, our readers reckon Holyrood has handled things better than Westminster, with the Scottish Government scoring 6.5 and ranking “good”, compared to the UK’s “OK” 4.6. Last night, a spokesman for Sturgeon said: “The First Minister has made it clear that her sole focus just now is on tackling the pandemic and protecting lives – that is the overriding priority and one which the Scottish Government will stay resolutely focussed on the days and weeks ahead. “This poll shows that people across Scotland understand why the measures put in place are so important, even though they are difficult – and that they are prepared to stick with the rules in order to overcome the crisis" Senior Tories defended Johnson, saying he has had to cope with catching the virus himself and the birth of his baby son Wilfred. Responding to our poll, a No10 spokesman said: “The Prime Minister has been clear that we will not do anything that risks a second peak which overwhelms the NHS and will continue to take the right steps at the right time based on the scientific evidence.” Other findings show 75 per cent of respondents thought social distancing measures were introduced too late on March 23. Many readers think that we still have a long road ahead, with 44 per cent believing social distancing measures will be in place for more than five months. Only four per cent per cent think they will be lifted soon. The financial impact of the pandemic was clear, with 43 per cent reporting a drop in household income. For many, the fall has been significant, with 28 per cent seeing their income cut by 50 per cent. Despite having less money in their pockets, half of readers say they’d accept a tax rise to get society moving again. Mental health has also proven to be a key factor adjusting to life on lockdown. Some 34 per cent have experienced more anxiety, while about 21 per cent have felt more depressed. Parents told us that juggling kids with other responsibilities is more difficult. But, despite missing a sociable tipple with pals, responsible Record readers rejected the idea of visiting a pub if one opened in secret.
I was going to say any country that wouldn’t attempt a socially-distanced conga line in the middle of a pandemic.
I kind of did. I don’t see what makes us more sophisticated than Finland, for example. Or Holland, Germany, Denmark, Singapore, South Korea, Norway.
Germany? Is that the Germany that voted in Hitler and the Nazis, when the UK electorate rejected fascism when Mosley tried to introduce it here?
Bizarre point to make in favour of our electorate in 2020 being one of the most sophisticated in the world.
People round here, set a very poor example of sophistication last night. Portsmouth has always been known for having more street parties, than anywhere else and it was no exception yesterday. People were running up and down in the roads, Cosham to the north of the city was heaving, they made it onto sky news, no social distancing whatsoever.
How could it possibly be bizzare? Germany's historic democratic record is probably the worst in the world. Are you saying an electorate that voted in the Nazis and brought about a world war, suddenly evolved into the most sophisticated electorate in the world? Or could it be there is simply a wild swing to the left after the horrors of right wing extremism? You have no right to call others thick as mince in my personal view. Sorry...
You know I’m not calling you thick as mince? Bit odd you’d focus on Germany (who I didn’t call the most sophisticated in the world btw) of all those I suggested to you and even odder to simplify the complicated issue of how the Nazis came to power and write off the German electorate compared to ours given based on that. Genuinely don’t even know where to start it’s that mental.
The UK is historically one of the most successful democracies. And this is down in part to leadership and in part to the electorate. The electorate has never had any truck with an extremist government like some other countries. That is to its credit, so to class it as full of people that are thick as mince is just not born out by history. The electorate has not suddenly suffered brain damage overnight. For me, the voting public here have always showed reason, generosity when required, slow to move to any extreme position and there is no more sophisticated group in the world. And all this is borne out by the fact that they did not vote in that ****ing idiot, Corbyn Starmer is another matter, and personally, I think he's had a decent start.
You know I didn’t mention thick as mince, at least not in this conversation? You said we are somehow more sophisticated than almost every other country in the world which sounds a bit like exceptionalism to me and started ranting about Germany/Nazis. If we put Germany to the side, because obviously the people they voted in 90 years ago make it clear their grandchildren are stupid ****s, do you really go to places like Scandinavia and Holland and conclude “this lot ain’t as sophisticated as us Brits”?
