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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    You are debating with a complete and utter halfwit Wills. Infact you're not debating, he just has opinions not facts and cries off when someone dares to question them. He isnt interested in this country or the future of this country, I very much doubt he is even british, more russian :emoticon-0136-giggl. He definately doesnt possess a degree, that is clear to see. A walking contradiction of a person if there ever was! Anyway enough of the slippery russian. Please dont upset him or question his propaganda, hes a delicate one:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    How do I ‘delete’ somebody ?

    I’ve got a list as long as your arm, starting with the Mrs, and want to start as soon as possible. :)
     
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  3. West WindsR

    West WindsR Well-Known Member

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    For £10k I can have someone poison them and frame the Russians.
     
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  4. ELLERS

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    Thats wrong.
    People in his party have left because of him and his problems with Jews... thats a fact. Look at Margaret Hodge who confronted Mr Corbyn and called him an "antisemite and a racist" to his face. Then they tried to deselect her!
    Only today I read this:
    “Under Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, Labour has come under formal investigation by the Equality and Human Rights Commission for institutional racism against Jews. Two Jewish MPs have been bullied out of the party. Mr. Corbyn has a long record of embracing antisemites as comrades.”
    and this:

    Facebook group helps Labour members avoid expulsion over antisemitism
    According to a report, the group "Labour Party Compliance: Suspensions, Expulsions, Rejections Co-Op" was co-founded by Labour candidate Maria Carroll and included Holocaust deniers
    A secret Facebook group to help Labour representatives, including some Holocaust deniers, defend themselves from charges of antisemitism and avoid expulsion from the party was uncovered by the Daily Mail on Sunday.

    According to the report, the group – called "Labour Party Compliance: Suspensions, Expulsions, Rejections Co-Op" - was co-established and run by Labour candidate Maria Carroll, who is running for the Carmarthen East & Dinefwr sea.

    Labour antisemitism: 30 whistleblowers to give evidence to EHRC
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...sm-30-whistleblowers-to-give-evidence-to-ehrc

    It goes on and on.
    As I said that young reporter who was on the news 2 weeks ago said there will be evidence to show that Corbyn covered up and didn't punish the people that were causing problems... Why was that?
     
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  5. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

    Turkish" Premier" Hoops Well-Known Member

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    I get your point Bob, but without cuts and austerity the system would fail completely, foodbanks were around before the Tories, waiting times were around before the Tories,Sadiq Khan has shut more police stations in London than the Tories ever have, social service cuts introduced by Liebour, they are all as bad as each other at times, but stop blaming the last 9 years of austerity solely on the Tories, these problems root cause was Liebours unsustainable spending and funding two illegal wars for which we are still paying the price in monetary terms and in terrorist acts around the globe.
    All politicians are Cnuts but I guess we just prefer our Cnuts to each other’s.
    Up the revolution !!!!
     
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    I dont disagree with you Turkish. I blame labour for those years, like I blame the Tories for the last 9. You dont improve things by making them worse.
     
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    Ffs , he just doesnt give up! Show some evidence Eeliov and then people may take you seriously. If not it's just opinions fella. 5 minutes googling jeremy Corbyn's racist quotes brings nothing. 5 minutes googling Borisovs racist quotes brings endless pages up! Strange that hey
     
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    So that suggests there is a problem within the party that was already known... bit like with the conservatives and Islamaphobia, and suggests that this has not been dealt with as it should, not sure that anyone again is suggesting otherwise, bit like the conservatives with Islamaphobia... again nothing to suggest that Corbyn himself holds those beliefs personally.

    I have seen numerous accounts including Watfords on here that this belief is not held within a lot of Jewish communities, we will wait to see if anything comes out from the inquiries, Corbyn doesn't seem particularly worried about his position although has made comments about stamping this problem out, think the conservatives have done this with their big problem with Islamaphobia.

    As stated previously labour supporters seem to want this to be investigated and any problems eradicated, where as it appears the Conservative supporters seem to ignore the inquiries about Islamaphobia and not at all pushing for what could be a potentially damaging report into Russian interference that could influence election results. That is very odd, and there is no way in hell that if that inquiry was the other way round the Conservatives and the media wouldn't be hounding the Labour party to release the report, to suggest otherwise is totally disingenuous.
     
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    For me the Corbyn has a problem with Jews issue is primarily led by media and sources that get these non factual stuff all over social media. If you tell a minority enough that a public figure is fundamentally opposed to them enough times of course some will believe it and become worried. Also strange for all this outrage and concern about Jewish citizens when the same is not extended to those of other faiths, let's pick one at random, ok, the Muslims.... Strange indeed
     
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    Seriously Wills do you believe the holocaust happened or you going to deny that with waffle?
    You need to accept that there is a problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party and the buck stops with Jezza. MPs have left because of him and his stance. He is being investigated and many prominent figures I; the Jewish community say he has not done enough to sort this problem or ignored it. As the reporter said “he has been very clever with denouncing it and covered up for people”.
    All you are trying to do is divert attention away from the problem by saying the Tories are islamaphobic. Most know where the real problem is and it lays at the feet of Jezza.
     
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    Jezza not a friend of terrorists? <doh>
     
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    Mate you are debating with an absolute moron. Eeliov sums up everything that is wrong with british politics. He is a disgrace to his country.
     
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    How many Jews are there in the UK
     
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    I really dont agree with this tactical voting by any party. It makes the whole election corrupt. It doesnt seem right. People should have the option to vote for someone from all the parties.
     
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    Around 300k but we control literally everything.
     
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    This is why people reply to you the way they do, you seriously lack respect, common courtesy and have pretty much zero people skills.

    For starers where in the slightest have I suggested that I would deny the Holocaust 'with waffle' That's extremely offensive and rude to even suggest.

    I have accepted there is a problem within Labour over this issue, something you are never able to do with your party of choice. You mention I'm deflecting, I'm using an equivalence to demonstrate the massive levels of hypocrisy by both the conservative supporters and the media.

    Why is Corbyn a problem and Johnson not?? You seem to hold each to completely different standards. With Corbyn you make outrageous unsubstantiated/hearsay claims, yet take the ostrich approach with Johnson.

    You draw conclusions prior to the release of reports if it's labour.. something else you show your hypocrisy with.

    It's impossible to debate with you when you don't take other peoples evidence and opinions into consideration.
     
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    He will definately put you on ignore now! That's how the slippery little Eel works. Hes a total Wum! His posts are just either nonsensical or propaganda. Like I say, he sums up everything wrong with british politics.
     
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    "No second independence referendum as long as I’m PM", Boris Johnson tells Scotland .

    That's that then. Scotland will get its second opportunity to leave in the Spring. The only certainty in life at the moment is that if Boris says one thing quite the opposite will happen.
     
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    I take all ( most) peoples arguments, but like Corbyn you are clever in your wording. you say ‘I have accepted there is a problem within Labour over this issue’ but do you accept that Jezza is also to blame? As far as I can see you are ignoring the facts that many have accused him. You never say I am concerned with the way Jezza has handled this.
    You are also wrong regarding what I have said with the Tories. As a member I have never come across anti-semitism or islamaphobia in the party or meetings. Now I am not saying someone hasn’t. But I have not witnessed it. I also said Boris was stupid with his ‘ letterbox’ remark but that was a one off and hasn’t got a history of saying it... whereas uncle Jezza has a history of incidents. I also don’t see MPs leaving the Tory party accusing Boris of Islamaphobia or organisations urging voters to not vote for him.
    I think Turkish called it in that politicians are @@@@‘s but ours are better than yours.
    Corbyn reminds me of the Foot fella when I was a kid. Unelectable and not a statesman. You can come on here and knock the Tories because you have an addenda but on the 12th Corbyn will lose and will be gone by Christmas. Come back then and knock the Tories.
     
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