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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    So we have a Boris deal that he describes as excellent yet certain supporters think isnt any good! (Even Trump wont trade with us on it). We have a Brexit party who say it's a crap deal and have offered to cosy up with the Tories, who have declined. (Dont take Boris at his word for that as he has a track record of lying).
    We have a Lib Dem party who will revoke article 50 straight away. Not very fair on the 17.4m who voted leave ( not that they can agree on what leave means). Then we have a labour party who will try to agree a new deal and then put it back to the people. Labour all day every day as people can often change their minds once they realise the consequences of things. Vote Jeremy Corbyn and labour
     
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  2. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Eelers, pick your toys up, shake yourself off today cant be any worse than yesterday for you! I dont think any less of you, I dont think that's possible!:emoticon-0137-clapp:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  3. Quite Possibly Raving

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    <doh> More drivel. You're either incapable of reading or willfully misreading.

    It's just not worth engaging with people in complete denial of reality and facts. Muted. I'd recommend others do the same.
     
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    So how many of your 81 polls were funded by Remain? It was you who gave me the link.

    The second part of your post is exactly what I have been saying for some time. You like to gang up along with the attention seeker and shout me down.
    Simple question
    You posted a link to the 81 polls, how many were funded by Remain?
     
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    Reality and facts are no comparison to slogans and memes! That's all Eelers has in his locker. Hes wants this country to be worse off, very unpatriotic.
     
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    A Labour Party that will negotiate a sh*t deal and then put it in a referendum against Remain and advise to vote against their deal. You can vote Labour all day if you want to Remain and have a Party with a leader their own MPs can't stand. Real Labour voters (the working class) who want Leave are basically f*cked...
     
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    I broke down the most recent 10 polls for you, your chosen number of polls required to be trustworthy. One was from a remain organisation. Others were from a leave organisation (e.g. The Sun and Telegraph). The one funded by remain had a smaller remain lead than those funded by leave because pollsters don't change their results based on who funds them.
     
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  8. ELLERS

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    As i said before i don't normally believe polls (even from the leave camp, especially from leave). I also thought that a big number of those polls were 1000 people survey which isn't a true reflection. Polls were wrong before the referendum and they maybe wrong for this GE, however I feel this time they maybe nearer than before. Boris was on 41% according to the Guardian. I reckon he is more likely to be 38% and not 34% like one said.
     
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    If Boris doesn't get in then I think that's Brexit over. Labour/Limps will sell their soul to the devil to get power and would easily forget the referendum result and voters. Big gamble by Boris and he really needs Farage to cool down.
     
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  10. Goldhawk-Road

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    Farage is taking a big risk. I can only think he's using his threat as leverage to get a better deal from the Tories. Boris and Co are deaf to anything else.
     
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  11. ELLERS

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    Agree because how ironic would it be if he cost Brexit. <doh>
    I still think that under all the talk of not having an alliance there are conversations happening. The ERG will put pressure on Boris to make some unspoken deal. Big risk for Bojo because if it's a hung parliament, he's finished. So are the Tories.
     
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    A deal any worse than that we already have?? They can advise all they want but it will be up to the people to decide rather than forced upon us
     
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  13. Goldhawk-Road

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    Farage may be the difference to Boris between a hung parliament and a majority. Farage is banking on this. I can't believe there won't be some accommodation.
     
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    Farage would never be forgiven if he cost Brexit. I don't know why Boris just doesn't pretend to go with his deal and rips it up after he wins? Hopefully common sense will prevail?
     
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    You're assuming that Farage wants Brexit more than he wants to be on TV...

    I'm not convinced! He'll keep finding some excuse to oppose whatever is put forward to keep giving himself airtime.
     
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    I know Farage likes the limelight but to say he wants/craves that more than Brexit is wide of the mark... although I will admit that drives a hard bargain and sometimes gives the impression that he will never be happy.
     
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    I think he wants power now that he will no longer be an MEP. I think he and his mates like Richard Tice would like to be able to take on Labour in a Leave seat without Tory opposition. They want to sit in Parliament. I think that's what it's about.
     
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    Yeah, could well be that. Either way he certainly gives the impression of putting his own interests ahead of Brexit itself.
     
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    Not to mention keep on collecting his cut from the most corrupt undemocratic organisation the world has ever seen
     
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  20. Stroller

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    Just had an e-mail from Jeremy Corbyn asking me to help write Labour's manifesto.

    Which was nice.
     
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