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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

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    I did look on Wiki originally Goldie and honestly couldn’t find anything specific. Plenty of anti Israeli stuff I certainly agree but anti Jewish ?
    He talked of ‘dark forces involved’ (from memory).....wasn’t that the same time that an Israeli official was secretly filmed admitting to be involved in smearing Corbyn and Labour as anti-Semitic ?
    Is no one now able to criticise the state of Israel without being accused of being anti-Jewish ?
     
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    Bobs right Eelers.......you need some rest mate.
    Sleep well my slippery chum.
     
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    He said Labour had given too much ground and been too apologetic over the complaints by Jewish members and MP's.
     
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    Well, the voter has the chance to decide. This will be a Brexit election and I doubt whether the domestic stuff will feature strongly, even if Corbyn wants it to
     
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    There’s what he said. I see no attacks on Jewish people personally and no defence of anti- semites in the Labour Party.
     
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    My point was that the Brexit election is going well so far for Johnson.

    If domestic stuff takes centre stage, it will get worse for him.
     
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    Perhaps, but the fact is, Corbyn is pretty unpopular and it would take something near a miracle to change that.
     
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    Yeah, Labour aren't going to win, but it's looking more likely that the Tories won't either.
     
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    This doesn't sound great though, when measured against a Jewish Labour MP who had to have police protection at the Labour Party conference. Surely you do more not less when members of a religious minority are receiving vile abuse and death threats from within the party?
     
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    two of the latest polls

    Tories leap eight points to open up 17-point lead

    RESULT: Con 41%, Lab 24%, Lib Dem 20%, Brexit Party 7%, Green 3%.

    Labour trailing 15 points behind as voters 'bored and fearful'

    RESULT: Con 36%, Lab 21%, Lib Dem 18%, Brexit Party 12%, Green 6%.
     
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    You're a brave man to make a prediction at this early stage
     
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    Too many deniers Goldie. They won't accept evidence. Even if I found that fab radio interview about jezza from inside, they would rubbish it.
     
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    You don't believe polls though, Ellers.

    I believe more in the bookies, who make No Overall Majority a shade of odds-on now.
     
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    They were ill judged comments for sure....but anti-Semitic or attacks on Jewish people ? Really ?
     
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    Strollers post comes across as defeatist. Tories will win and win well.
     
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    That wasn't a prediction Goldie, it was an observation. Check the bookies.
     
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    I cant believe this! <doh> Why didn't I post that as well? William hill has Tories at 5/6 and Labour at 16/1 I believe evens for hung parliament.
    I cant see it myself but a lot can happen in 6 weeks.

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    I don't normally believe in 1 or 2 polls Stroller, that is correct but when every poll has near enough the same information, then I take note.
     
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    You've already shown, in your exchanges with Raving, your bewildering lack of understanding of how opinion polls work, Ellers.

    The bookies initially had a Tory Majority as the slight favourite, but they now have No Overall Majority as the slight favourite. A small change, but significant, I think.
     
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    A wee ditty for you Ellers.....seems my man has a bit of an issue with BoJo



    We should push this for number 1
     
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