To be honest, that’s where I’ve probably got my info about her parents and didn’t do any research whatsoever....so the headline/sound bite could b e absolute bollox
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To be honest, that’s where I’ve probably got my info about her parents and didn’t do any research whatsoever....so the headline/sound bite could b e absolute bollox
Maybe it was a numbskull thing for you to copy in the first place. What was your point?
Interesting choice of front page. Not like anything else is going on.
What goes around comes around. Would be better just to tone it down and stop finding excuses not to condemn violence wherever it comes from. That means the right as well. Although a few journalists whose views you lap up and reproduce so avidly could happily be the first to go on the bonfire as far as I'm concerned.
Really think there’s a false equivalence here created by ‘the right’ to justify De Pfeffel’s words three years after a left wing Remain MP was murdered by a Brexit lunatic (terrorist).
Think you'll find that if you just take one moment of thought, instead of acting on default position, that the joke is aimed at the Prime Minister of Canada.
Ironically, a man who is feted and lauded by the left leaning, a man who has often shot himself in the foot, yet all is forgiven.
That you choose to see it as making fun of a 16 year old, probably says more about you.
Now how about this for a serious discussion - when did we stop thinking for ourselves and simply see everything automatically now from our self created entrenchments?
I couldn't really see a joke at all, I'm afraid. What is it?
My comments were based on all the real vitriol that is aimed at Thunberg, or have I got that wrong too? Is it all just a bit of fun and I'm too entrenched to see it?
From my perspective - and that is how I choose to read it - it is very dark humour aimed at Trudeau's lack of astuteness.
You can also choose to see it in a way that is condescending to the young lady, that would then be a somewhat cruder, less nuanced piece of "art".
I may be completely wrong and the "artist" is simply a complete idiot, I choose to doubt that.
I'm sure that you are more than able to see both sides simply judging you by the way you write and your prose.
Just that we all get in to a rut of seeing everything as black or white. Am a little concerned as to how this is now playing out for the UK - the media is simply playing it for "click bate".
It is very much in the same order as what is going on in the US - the very same left wing night shows ala Daily Show, Colbert, Jon Oliver etc are continuously feeding the very thing they portray as hating.
I'm sure we're mostly aware that both ends of extremism end meeting up.
I just took the thing to be another along the lines of 'she should be in school'. As Kiwi posted it, I had hoped that he would explain its nuances.
Extremism in the US has been stoked up by Trump. A deliberate, and successful, tactic. We now have our own Trump in the UK following the same path.
Don't agree entirely - Trump has made use of the already existing extremities - would you not agree that the media from all sides is fueling and keeping it alight with the incessant wall to wall reporting?
As for Trump in the UK? - Johnson is an ever so slightly more intelligent buffoon, with slightly more morals.
What do you think educated rational thinking people are making of last week?
An enormous furor to bring back Parliament in order to continue the slagging off we have endured for the past 2 1/2 years?
Or do they think it was a good use of time?
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That's educated rational thinking of the populous - of which vast swathes are not. How do you think these already politically socilaised are viewing this?
The anger and fury of last week was just what Johnson wanted. He wants the public at large to look at Parliament with disdain and the goings on last week will have helped no end in that regard. I think that educated, rational thinking people (your words) will see through Johnson, but, as you say, vast swathes of the populous are not. Johnson's use of terms like surrender, betrayal and collaborators is pure rabble-rousing, along the lines of Trump's 'Lock her up!'.