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Momentum fined over £16,000 for multiple breaches of electoral law during 2017 election
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...al-commission-law-corbyn-labour-a8809666.html
Oh dear Jezza mates have been cheating.
Momentum fined over £16,000 for multiple breaches of electoral law during 2017 election
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...al-commission-law-corbyn-labour-a8809666.html
Oh dear Jezza mates have been cheating.
I strongly doubt that Geoffrey Cox QC's current negotiations with Barnier to fix an end date to the backstop will result in anything. Therefore, May's deal does not deserve to get through. Parliament may vote for no no-deal next week (so individual MP's can absolve themselves of responsibility), but it seems to me no-deal is the most likely outcome because nothing else, including a bad losers referendum, will get a majority.
Breaking:
Momentum fined over £16,000 for multiple breaches of electoral law during 2017 election
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...al-commission-law-corbyn-labour-a8809666.html
Oh dear Jezza mates have been cheating.
Yeah ‘cos it’s a sin to not put down who actually ate the pizza.
More about being naive rather than crooked.......that’s more of a Tory slant, eh Ellers
Britain's borders and banks are increasingly well prepared for a 'no deal' Brexit, softening the blow to growth and avoiding the worst of the potential chaos if no transition is agreed, Bank of England Governor Mark Carney has said.
By contrast families and businesses across the EU should brace for higher borrowing costs and financial turmoil because its authorities have done less to prepare for no deal and so could cut their economies off from chunks of the crucial financial centre in London.
5th March 2019
By contrast families and businesses across the EU should brace for higher borrowing costs and financial turmoil because its authorities have done less to prepare for no deal and so could cut their economies off from chunks of the crucial financial centre in London.
5th March 2019
It seemed to be quiet however behind the scenes they are working hard and preparing for a no deal.
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When you hear "multiple breaches" I think that is a bit more than a pizza? How naive can someone be multiple times?Yeah ‘cos it’s a sin to not put down who actually ate the pizza.
More about being naive rather than crooked.......that’s more of a Tory slant, eh Ellers
All these people who have insisted for ages that 'nobody wants to leave without a deal' are still pretending that everything will be fine if it actually happens. Why don't they just admit that it's what they really long for?
And remain campaign Staines... Don't forget their lies.You’ll have to ask the Tories, Labour and Leave campaign about that mate....
However I agree that they all do this. It's just funny how after Jezza makes a statement about being fair and honest then this happens. Bit of a shot in the foot moment.
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You asked me yesterday about a no deal and I replied by saying I thought that all the remainers in the house would stop it. However since then I have read/heard 3 different things saying that 'No deal' is probably going to be the outcome.
Plenty of big business are saying that after a bump we will do okay. There was also a big story over the weekend saying that the UK would do much better than all the doom and gloom says and in fact will prosper. So it's not 'pretending', it's just a different forecast to remaining one
Plus you say "all these people". The ERG always wanted a deal but are willing to walk away rather then get a crap deal. The ERG are the only group that have respected the true meaning of Brexit. It's just a shame that the House wasn't full of more MP's like this.... However it doesn't matter because at the next election we will be seeing the end of many of these unfit MP's.
Yet another straw man. All the Brexiteers on here have said their first preference is a deal with time limited backstop (because no sovereign country should bind itself in perpetuity). The second option, if the EU insists on the backstop lasting until the end of time, thus keeping us in the CU and making it impossible for the UK to enter its own deals in an expanding global market, is a move to WTO on 29 March.
I'm totally hacked off with the EU's intransigent attitude. Love it if we call their bluff now.
You are right, all a bunch of lying tricksters..and probably why many will turn their back on mainstream politics.
Come on Ellers, you’re not really surprised about any affackbon Corbyn by the MSM are you ?
What he actually said was we are in a slightly better place than the Bank thought last Autumn, because of policy measures put in place by both the UK and the EU, the minimum damage from a disorderly no deal Brexit is now thought to be a drop of 2.75% in GDP, as opposed to 4.75% in the original forecast. Huge border friction and a collapse in the markets and sterling are still expected on March 29th. He said ‘there will be a material economic shock’.
After the next ‘meaningless vote’ on May’s deal the government will publish its no deal tariff schedule. Most tariffs will be set at zero, with 8% on cars and 20% on beef and dairy products. This is to keep prices down for British consumers (though the fall in £ will mean imports are more expensive even with no tariffs), but also protect British farmers a bit. I assume that the EU will impose its full tariff schedule on UK exports, they will be cheaper anyway with a lower £.
But the currency markets at least don’t point to a no deal end game. How I wish they were a trustworthy guide. I can’t find any info on the level of £ held in short sell funds at present.
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I dont see this intransigent attitude you describe by the EU. Our government put a deal forward, the 27 member countries agreed to it. We then decided we wanted something different. The EU said it was already agreed and wouldnt reopen the agreement. We have ****ed up not them. As for all the brexiteers on here saying their preferred first option is a deal with a time limited backstop, I was under the impression that leave meant leave. Where was the mention of a deal and the backstop issue when voting. Only Col on here has stuck to his guns and wants out, I respect his honesty more than people who pretended they voted for this or that.
The intransigence is all Theresa May's it seems to me.
Parliament has already indicated that it won't allow a No Deal exit on 29th March and has voted overwhelmingly for an Article 50 extension should May's deal fail again. It seems highly likely therefore that an extension will be sought from the EU, which they would almost certainly grant. The issue then is, for how long, and what do we do next? The increasingly resurgent Macron has said that an extension should only be granted if there is a new plan, and it seems to me that the only new plan which would solve the Irish border question and break the deadlock is permanent CU membership, which would be a sensible compromise.