Why is no one talking about this? Because it's bollocks, that's why. I googled Lisbon Treaty 2020 and what came out top was something called the 'Lewes Forum' which had the same list of bullshit. I did manage to find this in repudiation, though (you'll enjoy the name of the website)……. ilovetheeu.co.uk/democracy/no-none-of-the-list-of-lies-is-laid-down-in-the-lisbon-treaty/
mmm In the last 3 days i have not been so confident about us leaving? It seems that May has ruled the out meaningful vote this week. And more concerning is that reports keep coming out talking of it being delayed until 2021?
I think you will get your wish by default Ellers, because all parties involved - our Government, our MPs and the EU Commission/Council - are incompetent twats, incapable of convincing anyone of anything. No deal looms as they play chicken and all get killed.
Never heard of Andrew Fisher, but I wouldn't have said that getting a journalist to write the manifesto was the same as letting him decide what went in it. Even if he had, there's nothing in it to be scared of as far as I can see. Quite the opposite. There's been a lot of talk about UKIP entryism in the Tory party, so maybe a new centre party will eventually emerge from the Brexit fiasco, with One-Nation Tories and Blairite Labour MPs joining forces with Liberals. The Independent Group doesn't stand for anything currently, though. Just about to open another bottle of the smokey bacon-tasting Kruger Pinotage. Yummy.
I think that's a bit harsh Sb...I always wanted a free trade deal. I only said that the default will kick in if there is a no deal. However loads of MP's keep saying they won't let that happen.
I wasn’t having a go at you Ellers, but at absolutely all of the numpties involved in this fiasco. I don’t think there is a mechanism in place for MPs to block a no deal Brexit. Might change this week. If it does May could also get her deal through. But honestly, **** knows. As a bloke on the radio said this morning (his name escapes me) I’m tired and bored of my own thoughts on this subject, let alone anyone else’s.
I just got back from Germany and had an interesting conversation re Brexit which I will post at a later point.
My mates in the US don’t really get it at all, mind you they have enough problems of their own to focus on. The conversation tends to go: ‘What’s going to happen?’ ‘Nobody knows, that’s the problem’ ‘You guys must hate the EU’ ‘We hate each other more’. I will place a bet that your conversation in Germany 100% backs up your opinions. It’s amazing how you only ever meet foreigners who run down their own countries. Which us British would never do, of course.
He’s not a journo, he is Corbyn’s Chief policy advisor, a Marxist economist. I’m sick to death of this crappy stuck in the past us v them party system, but it will see me out.
Bernie Sanders is well into something called Modern Monetary Theory, championed by a US economist called Stephanie Kelton, which essentially says a government can run up whatever deficit it likes, printing money to do it, as long as inflation doesn’t go mental. So Corbyn (or Sanders) could go in a spending spree, theoretically, and not send us all down the river. It’s actually just what conservative administrations have done, except they spend on tax cuts rather than public services. On paper it makes sense. Sadly the people who like the conservative tax cuts also have the ability to manipulate markets to ruin public spending based policies. And it’s also a shame that Modern Monetary Theory shares its initials with Magic Money Tree.
How anyone can watch that May woman say that we are hopeful of a deal when there is only one deal in play... that was rejected was it not? Dear god how can that be said on UK TV and not be picked up? We have one deal from a self imposed dictator or doom for the next generations It’s really incredible theatre this now Layers and layers of brainwashing the sheep are confused , some have lied down to die You will get your beautiful blue wool dirty
I'm not sure that makes sense to me, but I like the sound of it. Sanders is seeking the nomination again isn't he. I'm convinced he would have beaten Trump last time round. It'd be marvellous if he did it next time.
