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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Goldhawk-Road said:
Don't agree. The EU are beginning to lean on Dublin over the backstop. If there is an end date here, May's deal would probably go through

Caroline Flint reporting today that there seems to be a hardening attitude in the public in general in favour of a no deal to resolve this matter
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If she turns over the last result of the deal
Then it will be a fix up
 
ELLERS said:
There is no point goading me Bob as we will be leaving the EU. People need to accept that. Brussels will cave in and we will get out.
This has come in the last hour from the Telegraph
Brexit latest news: Brussels ready to entirely 'rework' future relationship
Commentators today are saying the EU is getting concerned. Members states are starting to worry about their own Countries. They should be because a 'no deal' will break the block.
As for your staying in quote? Maybe you should let your mates at the EU know because Barnier has just tweeted:
EU'S BARNIER SAYS PREPARING FOR NO DEAL IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER

I am beginning to think May will get her deal through with some changes. Who would have thought it?
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What mates do I have at the EU?
 
Stroller said:
Parliament won't let a no deal exit happen, so if the likes of you and Flint think that that's what they really want (and bearing in mind that absolutely nobody campaigned for No Deal in the last referendum), there will need to be a new referendum - No Deal v No Brexit. That'll get it sorted.
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Parliament may not be able to stop no deal. Cooper and Grieve's amendments don't make new law. It could be difficult to convert to law - they would have a day and if Brexiteers filibuster, it won't go through. May is whipping her cabinet, despite Rudd's attempts to get a free vote.

Second referendum is looking unlikely. The majority of the public in polls say a clear no. May is against it. There is no majority in Parliament for it. Even Corbyn won't say he's for it.

It's only a matter of time before the EU say to Dublin, you don't need the backstop to last for eternity, and a no-deal could even be existential for the EU given economic problems in many of the member countries and the increasing popularity among electorates for sovereign countries no seeding power to an unaccountable bloc.
 
Stroller said:
Well that's summed it up nicely. All of this **** is about what's best for the Tory party, not the country.

Bunch of ****s.
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Nicely twisted. I noticed you omitted that Labour Stance? ERG don't make up 230 unless you follow the same maths as Diane Abbott?
As you have said, the Tories are in power and it's their problem. so in essence it's up to them to sort it.
As for your ridiculous comment about what's best for the country... maybe you should look at the muppets who have not accepted the result and have tried from day one to undermine the will of the people.
it makes me sick when a bunch of cry babies who lost a vote want to change the laws/constitution/1000 years of democracy to get their undemocratic way instead of supporting their country.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Parliament may not be able to stop no deal. Cooper and Grieve's amendments don't make new law. It could be difficult to convert to law - they would have a day and if Brexiteers filibuster, it won't go through. May is whipping her cabinet, despite Rudd's attempts to get a free vote.

Second referendum is looking unlikely. The majority of the public in polls say a clear no. May is against it. There is no majority in Parliament for it. Even Corbyn won't say he's for it.

It's only a matter of time before the EU say to Dublin, you don't need the backstop to last for eternity, and a no-deal could even be existential for the EU given economic problems in many of the member countries and the increasing popularity among electorates for sovereign countries no seeding power to an unaccountable bloc.
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They will try and change the law to get Brexit suspended or a 'Losers vote" Goldie. Fortunately people are getting sick of the way MP's/media/big business are acting. The more I listen to the radio or watch TV the more I see people growing frustrated and angry because of a few losers who didn't get their own way. They may try but they will fail.
 
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ELLERS said:
Nicely twisted. I noticed you omitted that Labour Stance? ERG don't make up 230 unless you follow the same maths as Diane Abbott?
As you have said, the Tories are in power and it's their problem. so in essence it's up to them to sort it.
As for your ridiculous comment about what's best for the country... maybe you should look at the muppets who have not accepted the result and have tried from day one to undermine the will of the people.
it makes me sick when a bunch of cry babies who lost a vote want to change the laws/constitution/1000 years of democracy to get their undemocratic way instead of supporting their country.
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Those MPs that are doing all they can to prevent No Deal are doing it for the good of the country, because they know what a disaster it would be. It's not undermining the will of the people, because no one was even talking about leaving without a deal during the last referendum. If May were to compromise on her red lines, say to adopt a permanent Customs Union, she could get a deal through Parliament easily, and the result of the referendum would be honoured. If May is prepared to risk No Deal, just to pacify the ERG and keep the Tory party together, she is a traitor.
 
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Stroller said:
Those MPs that are doing all they can to prevent No Deal are doing it for the good of the country, because they know what a disaster it would be. It's not undermining the will of the people, because no one was even talking about leaving without a deal during the last referendum. If May were to compromise on her red lines, say to adopt a permanent Customs Union, she could get a deal through Parliament easily, and the result of the referendum would be honoured. If May is prepared to risk No Deal, just to pacify the ERG and keep the Tory party together, she is a traitor.
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Exactly that.
 
Stroller said:
It's not undermining the will of the people, because no one was even talking about leaving without a deal during the last referendum. I
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<laugh>
And no one was ever talking about being in the single market or Customs Union? People voted to leave and this is now the latest excuse 'remoaners' are coming up with....Like the "They didn't know what we voted for" crap.
With every post you are sounding as desperate as Vince Cable. As I said, you need to respect the result even if you don't like it.
 
Stroller said:
Those MPs that are doing all they can to prevent No Deal are doing it for the good of the country, because they know what a disaster it would be. It's not undermining the will of the people, because no one was even talking about leaving without a deal during the last referendum. If May were to compromise on her red lines, say to adopt a permanent Customs Union, she could get a deal through Parliament easily, and the result of the referendum would be honoured. If May is prepared to risk No Deal, just to pacify the ERG and keep the Tory party together, she is a traitor.
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If a bloke goes into a car showroom, and says to the salesman "I want that red car, I must have it and will pay whatever you charge me" - what kind of deal do you think the salesman will offer that mug?
 
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ELLERS said:
Nicely twisted. I noticed you omitted that Labour Stance? ERG don't make up 230 unless you follow the same maths as Diane Abbott?
As you have said, the Tories are in power and it's their problem. so in essence it's up to them to sort it.
As for your ridiculous comment about what's best for the country... maybe you should look at the muppets who have not accepted the result and have tried from day one to undermine the will of the people.
it makes me sick when a bunch of cry babies who lost a vote want to change the laws/constitution/1000 years of democracy to get their undemocratic way instead of supporting their country.
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The will of the people then accepted not today when most people can see the crap people like you haven’t them
 
One week or so on and people are actually thinking that the deal on the table is suddenly fine?

Wake up it will be defeated again and again

Blue muppets no back bone
 
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