Or we could all be European and trust what now seems a far better class of political people... People who actually work for the people not themselves
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Or we could all be European and trust what now seems a far better class of political people... People who actually work for the people not themselves
You couldn't make it up (from the BBC)
May cannot dish out the 500 page document to MP's or say anything about the meeting until she clears it with Brussels!
Nigel fatage is furious as while in Brussels Barniers deput and friends walked past him laughing saying "when is the people's vote"?
We need to walk away and then see them laugh. Had enough now.
May cannot dish out the 500 page document to MP's or say anything about the meeting until she clears it with Brussels!
Nigel fatage is furious as while in Brussels Barniers deput and friends walked past him laughing saying "when is the people's vote"?
We need to walk away and then see them laugh. Had enough now.
Like the Italians. Anyway Lord Haw-Haw it shouldn't bother you as you live in France....get back to your nuts
When did May say that? Been watching the news and she's not out of the meeting yet
Bingo
Full House
It’s the truth
Brussels in all of this imo have behaved and acted very well Thank god they are still in charge
Leave it to the 52% I maintain nothing will happen
No skills and no idea of the consequences
Seriously Ellers you haven’t a clue mate completely blinkered and self obsessed
You are a QPR brother and sad to see you in meltdown mate
Brusselsa have behaved and acted well..................................
You may be a fellow QPR brother, but you sir are a complete horses arse, you have been living in Reichsfuehrer Merkel’s 4th Reich for too long, you are a lost cause and are blind to all they do, I wish you well in your future stay there and your further future in a sanitarium for the completely f*****g insane.
I thought he lived in "Macronland" although you are correct he is Lord Haw-Haw
I am in London I live here as well as France
Is that insanity? or just a lifestyle I have made happen within what I see as a wonderful Europe
That is a disgusting opinion of Germany and not even close to reality imo
If a single Brexiteer QPR brother on here could just make one decent statement other than repost complete rubbish or better still propose a post brexit solution I would listen
The facts to date are it hasn’t happened
Nationalist dreams,wishes are nothing without substance of facts Calling people names is easy
I challenge any Brexiteer who voted
Is this what you wanted ?
Would you seriously stand by a no deal?
Has your misplaced pride blinded you?
You still have 48% of the people against your protest vote how exactly are you going to :
A: Rebuild the divide of opinion
B. Propose just a few ideas to at least describe any sort of plan
C. Stop an exodus of Business ... I have given proof and examples of what is happening there
It’s 100% true. It’s factual and I stand by it to the end .
D. Pay for the mess you have delivered
Talking about armies and calling fellow Europeans names seems to be the only substance of your argument plus of course cherry picking fake news and reposting it
Mate QPR brother or not you sir are a Horses tagnut
Brilliant stuff so you believe I maybe hung for being a pro European?
I will get my new army onto you
Foreign Office 'allowed Pakistan mob to dictate Asia Bibi asylum case'
Home Office urged not to grant asylum out of fears for the safety of consular staff
Patrick Wintour
Tue 13 Nov 2018 18.22 GMT Last modified on Wed 14 Nov 2018 01.00 GMT
Home Office urged not to grant asylum out of fears for the safety of consular staff
Patrick Wintour
Tue 13 Nov 2018 18.22 GMT Last modified on Wed 14 Nov 2018 01.00 GMT
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Asia Bibi remains in protective custody in an undisclosed location in Pakistan. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images
The Foreign Office has been accused of allowing government asylum policy to be dictated to by a Pakistan mob after it was confirmed it urged the Home Office not to grant Asia Bibi political asylum in the UK out of fear for the safety of UK consular staff.
Asia Bibi, a Christian woman acquitted of blasphemy, is seeking asylum after threats to her life in Pakistan. The former UK foreign secretary Boris Johnson was among many MPs calling for her and her family to be granted sanctuary in Britain.
The acquittal of the 53-year-old Catholic farmworker by Pakistan’s supreme court last month prompted demonstrations by hardline Islamist parties in Pakistan who had campaigned for her to be hanged.
She remains in protective custody in an undisclosed locationin Pakistan after the prime minister, Imran Khan, agreed to allow a petition against the court’s decision as part of a deal to halt the protests.
Her husband, Ashiq Masih, has appealed for help to Britain, Canada, Italy and the US but the UK high commissioner in Islamabad is reported to have warned he could not protect his staff if asylum was granted by the UK.
- Tom Tugendhat, the foreign affairs select committee chair, asked the Foreign Office permanent secretary, Sir Simon McDonald, whether the episode “does not raise the question that either staff should be withdrawn or security increased or otherwise UK policy is effectively dictated to by a mob?”.
Tugendhat took the committee into lengthy private session after McDonald said he did not wish to give evidence in public on a such a sensitive issue
McDonald defended Britain’s efforts to find a third country to take Bibi, saying this would allow UK policy objectives to be achieved without any risk to its staff.
Tugendhat said the episode represented “one of the clearest examples of free conscience being challenged today”.
The senior Labour MP Mike Gapes said: “Given the clear inability of this new Pakistani government of Imran Khan to stop these mobs from intimidating and killing Christians in Pakistan, is it not time to reassess our relations with Pakistan? There are big concerns if religious minorities in Pakistan are not safe.”
McDonald said the Britain’s relationship with Pakistan relationship was important to both countries.
He added: “If the objective is to protect life and some other country can provide some more complete safe harbour, why should the UK not be open to working with that country?”
The Pakistan foreign office confirmed on Tuesday that it had been holding talks with the Canadian foreign ministry over granting Bibi asylum.
Confirmation of talks between the two governments came after the Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, said on Monday his government was talking to Pakistan about the case.
“We are in discussions with the Pakistani government,” Trudeau said in an interview with Agence France-Presse (AFP) in Paris, where he was attending a peace conference organised by the French president, Emmanuel Macron.
Ah yes the new euro army, headquarters in Berlin no doubt, the new army Sir Clegg said would never happen, but Farage warned about years ago, the EEC first discussed as long ago as 1940 in Berlin ( funny that ) google it if you so desire, the EEC set up as a trading block but has mutated into the corrupt self serving ‘State’ that produces nothing, manufactures nothing, grows nothing run by an unelected bunch of misfits now desires to rule sovereign nations as the USE (United States of Europe), we were lied to in the 70’s about Europe and we’re still being lied to ( look up the Kalergi plan ) google that as well if you wish.
People like you who couldn’t see the future are now being replaced by people who can, the internet has opened the eyes of the common man,and the common man has seen through all the bulls**t and lies whereas your ilk still believe that the EU is good.
Don’t forget to go back to the vessel state of macron-land before Brexit because remember all the aeroplanes will fall out the sky, all the channel ports will be closed and you won’t be able to get Camembert and Brie and wine after March 2019 according to your beloved remoaners in arms.
Cabinet agrees. Doubtless a couple of resignations to come, McVey and Mordaunt, possibly Leadsom. Gove, Fox, Raab probably think their careers are better off going along. Let’s hope they are wrong.
Now it’s up to Parliament and then the EU 27. If Parliament rejects, which looks likely, presumably May resigns and/or calls an election.
What an epically miserable experience this whole thing is. I can’t think of a single public figure, of either viewpoint, that I have more respect for now than I did 3 years ago. And I had virtually no respect for any of them back then.
Meanwhile, I discover that an old mate of mine, a Gooner who I used to go to Edinburgh with (along with a bunch of others) almost annually to watch Hibs, drink Guiness and have a laugh, has terminal cancer. I think he’s too ill and it’s too far gone for active treatment (and for his form of cancer it would add months at best even if he was fit enough to handle it). But the chemo regime he was offered in the NHS was the same as he would have got in 1999. It’s a ****ing joke, 3rd world stuff. Good luck Deano.
Now it’s up to Parliament and then the EU 27. If Parliament rejects, which looks likely, presumably May resigns and/or calls an election.
What an epically miserable experience this whole thing is. I can’t think of a single public figure, of either viewpoint, that I have more respect for now than I did 3 years ago. And I had virtually no respect for any of them back then.
Meanwhile, I discover that an old mate of mine, a Gooner who I used to go to Edinburgh with (along with a bunch of others) almost annually to watch Hibs, drink Guiness and have a laugh, has terminal cancer. I think he’s too ill and it’s too far gone for active treatment (and for his form of cancer it would add months at best even if he was fit enough to handle it). But the chemo regime he was offered in the NHS was the same as he would have got in 1999. It’s a ****ing joke, 3rd world stuff. Good luck Deano.
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No need Turkish
I have read the internet ... it’s very good
I take my English Cheese with me Call it a mini export although it’s made in Holland
People like me embraced Europe as they could see the old generation doesn’t care about the next
Give me Zee Germans any day
Feed them to the pigs Errol
Sorry to hear that news G
Agree what a farce
Anyone on here proud of British politics now?
The 52% have to concede it was a protest vote nothing more no plan afterwards no substance
I despair!!
I hear the cabinet has given the go ahead to the agreement. I await the details,but I suspect that, as I suspected would happen, the political class has completely fudged the issue.
This isn't brexit, so all remainers should be thrilled. You lost the referendum but have won the war.
Over 17 million people are going to be ****ing furious which means the Tories are ****ed.
I've had it with these ****ers. The Irish PM has joined forces with the EU and our political elite to scare monger concerning the Irish border. The EU have always wanted to punish us which is why we should walk away. May has gone from not wanting a bad deal instead of a good deal to the complete opposite. ****ing useless!!
I'll never forgive the politicians if I don't get the brexit I voted for.