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need to do something to keep those foreign ****ers out utrs
get yourself down the sperm bank and make a deposit people
we dont need a pile of danish half breeds taking over
get yourself down the sperm bank and make a deposit people
we dont need a pile of danish half breeds taking over
I notice that the tribune of the people, the man that the stolid, Brexit voting yeomen (and women) of Great Britain (but especially the desolate north) turn to for hope and inspiration, the enemy of establishments and elites, Sir Jacob Lord of the Rees Mogg, spent yesterday moving into a newly purchased £5m five storey house near Parliament. Looks like his investment in Indonesian abortion pills is generating returns. All is permitted, he’s on a mission from God.
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maybe he should invest in islamic pharmacuticals
then he could help out their god too
The rise of the BABY VIKINGS: Why single British women desperate for children are turning to sperm donors in Denmark - who'll play no part in their offspring's lives
As a photographer, Jemma Watts loves to travel. She has always said that if she had a little girl she would call her India, because of her love for the country.
Yet it’s another country that she plans to make special for her child. When she shows him or her the world, she will make an extra effort to visit Denmark regularly.
‘I’ve spent a long time thinking of how we would travel to Denmark, go on holiday there, learn about the history and the culture,’ she says.
That’s because she is planning to have a Viking baby, raised in Britain, but proud to be half-Danish. Ideally, she would love to have a couple of babies — she jokes about the prospect of Viking hordes.
Her vision of the future is vivid, but poignant, because Jemma isn’t pregnant and does not have a partner. She is one of the thousands of British women who are pinning their hopes on having a Viking baby, thanks to Danish sperm banks.
Jemma, 41, is one of the women followed in an extraordinary BBC documentary that goes behind the scenes at several clinics, including Cryos in Aarhus, the biggest sperm bank in the world.
Every year, hundreds of women like Jemma travel to Denmark for treatment or, more commonly, buy Danish sperm over the internet to be used in British clinics or at home via self-insemination.
Some are women whose partners have fertility issues, but the majority are lesbians or — and this is the fastest-growing type of client — single women in their 30s and 40s who do not see why a lack of partner should be a barrier to motherhood.
As documentary maker Sue Bourne puts it: ‘The Danes are famous for exporting beer, bacon, Lego — and now sperm. I don’t think most people have any idea of the scale of what is happening because the women who do it tend to be secretive.’
A Viking baby doesn’t come cheap. Danish sperm bought over the internet and delivered to an address in Britain costs £460.
If a woman travels to Denmark for clinical insemination or further fertility help, the price soars to several thousand pounds. Factor in the cost of travel and accommodation — and that several trips may be needed (six or more is not uncommon) — and it can be extremely expensive. One woman has spent £75,000 ‘and stopped counting after that’. Yet the Cryos clinic (motto: ‘Congratulations, it’s a Viking’) has been running for 25 years and boasts 30,000 babies born worldwide. It is only in the past few years that there has been a ‘Viking invasion’ of Britain, due to changes in the law that banned anonymous sperm donation in Britain, leading to a rapid decline in donors.
- The Danes are famous for exporting beer, bacon, Lego — and now sperm
- BBC documentary went behind the scenes at several clinics, including Cryos in Aarhus, the biggest sperm bank in the world
- Danish sperm bought over the internet and delivered to Britain costs £460
- Cryos director Ole Schou believes there are up to 1,000 Danish babies from his clinic alone in the UK
As a photographer, Jemma Watts loves to travel. She has always said that if she had a little girl she would call her India, because of her love for the country.
Yet it’s another country that she plans to make special for her child. When she shows him or her the world, she will make an extra effort to visit Denmark regularly.
‘I’ve spent a long time thinking of how we would travel to Denmark, go on holiday there, learn about the history and the culture,’ she says.
That’s because she is planning to have a Viking baby, raised in Britain, but proud to be half-Danish. Ideally, she would love to have a couple of babies — she jokes about the prospect of Viking hordes.
Her vision of the future is vivid, but poignant, because Jemma isn’t pregnant and does not have a partner. She is one of the thousands of British women who are pinning their hopes on having a Viking baby, thanks to Danish sperm banks.
Jemma, 41, is one of the women followed in an extraordinary BBC documentary that goes behind the scenes at several clinics, including Cryos in Aarhus, the biggest sperm bank in the world.
Every year, hundreds of women like Jemma travel to Denmark for treatment or, more commonly, buy Danish sperm over the internet to be used in British clinics or at home via self-insemination.
Some are women whose partners have fertility issues, but the majority are lesbians or — and this is the fastest-growing type of client — single women in their 30s and 40s who do not see why a lack of partner should be a barrier to motherhood.
As documentary maker Sue Bourne puts it: ‘The Danes are famous for exporting beer, bacon, Lego — and now sperm. I don’t think most people have any idea of the scale of what is happening because the women who do it tend to be secretive.’
A Viking baby doesn’t come cheap. Danish sperm bought over the internet and delivered to an address in Britain costs £460.
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If a woman travels to Denmark for clinical insemination or further fertility help, the price soars to several thousand pounds. Factor in the cost of travel and accommodation — and that several trips may be needed (six or more is not uncommon) — and it can be extremely expensive. One woman has spent £75,000 ‘and stopped counting after that’. Yet the Cryos clinic (motto: ‘Congratulations, it’s a Viking’) has been running for 25 years and boasts 30,000 babies born worldwide. It is only in the past few years that there has been a ‘Viking invasion’ of Britain, due to changes in the law that banned anonymous sperm donation in Britain, leading to a rapid decline in donors.
It's all kicking off up here....big Eck has been accused of sexual misconduct, leaving wee Jimmy Crankie in a bit of a dilemma - does she stand by her mentor and then go down with him if he's found guilty, or stick the knife in and stand on his bloodied corpse? Whichever way it goes, and Salmond is taking the Scottish Government to court to have his say, the SNP stand to lose some support, a chink in their armour that both Conservatives and Labour will seek to capitalise upon.
Is it just coincidence that this has emerged today, a day after Comrade Corbyn was high-tailing around up here spouting his usual piffle.....one for the conspiracy thread?
Is it just coincidence that this has emerged today, a day after Comrade Corbyn was high-tailing around up here spouting his usual piffle.....one for the conspiracy thread?
That's great, he obviously drew his inspiration from these guys...
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Great days to be a racist in Britain, you have two mainstream political parties to choose from!
Corbyn’s comments from 5 years ago that British born and bred Zionists (any British born Jew who believes Israel has a right to exist) ‘don’t get British irony’ i.e. aren’t really British. Yes, Jeremy, you stupid ****wit, it’s the ‘enemy within’ insinuation, well done. This time Nick Griffin and David Duke have come out in his support.
Meanwhile, aspiring Tory Leader Boris Johnson’s Facebook page is awash with ‘Islamophobes’ (a totally inadequate and misleading term in my view) agreeing the **** out of him on people who dress differently and look funny. And with a few more suggestions about what should be done with Muslims.
Condemnations and denials all round of course (with the alluring spectacle of Corbyn condemning and denying himself) but here’s the thing - if you are a public figure who says things in public that can be taken in a certain way by certain people you either agree with those people or are a cretin. Either way I think a dose of leprosy would do you good.
Corbyn’s comments from 5 years ago that British born and bred Zionists (any British born Jew who believes Israel has a right to exist) ‘don’t get British irony’ i.e. aren’t really British. Yes, Jeremy, you stupid ****wit, it’s the ‘enemy within’ insinuation, well done. This time Nick Griffin and David Duke have come out in his support.
Meanwhile, aspiring Tory Leader Boris Johnson’s Facebook page is awash with ‘Islamophobes’ (a totally inadequate and misleading term in my view) agreeing the **** out of him on people who dress differently and look funny. And with a few more suggestions about what should be done with Muslims.
Condemnations and denials all round of course (with the alluring spectacle of Corbyn condemning and denying himself) but here’s the thing - if you are a public figure who says things in public that can be taken in a certain way by certain people you either agree with those people or are a cretin. Either way I think a dose of leprosy would do you good.
EU citizens! Watch as these migrants arrive. They literally sprint to the nearest hospital in order to start work, so keen are they to integrate in to Europe. Contrast this to the lazy tourists, just lounging around on the beach.
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The man really is teflon, his supporters will back him whatever he does, I went on the Trump protest... but I go on about 30+ a year including when Mohammed Bin Salman visited the UK, and many an anti arms trade march over the years. You have causes close to your heart but part of the reason the Trump protest was as big as it was is firstly he makes him self front and centre, I can't remember another political leader in my lifetime who has an ego anywhere near his, he makes it about himself, he also seems to want to piss off as many people as possible, women, the disabled, the list goes on and if you look what he's had to say about McCain not being a war hero because he was captured... from someone who dodged the draft, what an absolute ****
Greece was never bailed out – it remains locked in an EU debtor's prison
Yanis Varoufakis
Punitive conditions attached to the ‘rescue’ package mean the Greek financial tragedy may never end
Sun 26 Aug 2018 06.00 BST Last modified on Sun 26 Aug 2018 20.29 BST
Yanis Varoufakis is the co-founder of DiEM25 and the former finance minister of Greece
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Yanis Varoufakis
Punitive conditions attached to the ‘rescue’ package mean the Greek financial tragedy may never end
Sun 26 Aug 2018 06.00 BST Last modified on Sun 26 Aug 2018 20.29 BST
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A man walks past closed shops in Thessaloniki. Photograph: Sakis Mitrolidis/AFP/Getty Images
Over the past week, the world’s media have been proclaiming the successful completion of the Greek financial rescue programme mounted in 2010 by the European Union and the International Monetary Fund. Headlines celebrated the end of Greece’s bailout, even the termination of austerity.
Buoyant reports from ground zero of the eurozone crisis portrayed Europe’s eight-year long Greek intervention as a paradigm of judicious European solidarity with its black sheep; a case of “tough love” that, reportedly, worked.
A more careful reading of the facts points to a different reality. In the very week that a devastated Greece entered another 42 years of harsh austerity and deeper debt bondage (2018-2060), how can the end of austerity and Greece’s regained financial independence be presented as fact? Instead, last week should be cited in our universities’ media schools and economics departments as an example of how consent can be built internationally around a preposterous lie.
But let’s begin by defining our terms. What is a bailout and why is Greece’s version exceptional and never-ending? Following the banking debacle in 2008, almost every government bailed out the banks. In the UK and US, governments famously gave the green light to, respectively, the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve to print mountains of public money to refloat the banks. Additionally, the UK and US governments borrowed large sums to further aid the failing banks while their central banks financed much of those debts.
On the European continent, a far worse drama was unfolding due to the EU’s odd decision, back in 1998, to create monetary union featuring a European Central Bank without a state to support it politically and 19 governments responsible for salvaging their banks in times of financial tumult, but without a central bank to aid them. Why this anomalous arrangement? Because the German condition for swapping the deutschmark for the euro was a total ban on any central bank financing of banks or governments – Italian or Greek, say.
So, when in 2009 the French and German banks proved even more insolvent than those of Wall Street or the City, there was no central bank with the legal authority, or backed by the political will, to save them. Thus, in 2009, even Germany’s Chancellor Merkel panicked when told that her government had to inject, overnight, €406bn of taxpayers’ money into the German banks.
Alas, it was not enough. A few months later, Mrs Merkel’s aides informed her that, just like the German banks, the over-indebted Greek state was finding it impossible to roll over its debt. Had it declared its bankruptcy, Italy, Ireland, Spain and Portugal would follow suit, with the result that Berlin and Paris would have faced a fresh bailout of their banks greater than €1tn. At that point, it was decided that the Greek government could not be allowed to tell the truth, that is, confess to its bankruptcy.
To maintain the lie, insolvent Athens was given, under the smokescreen of “solidarity with the Greeks”, the largest loan in human history, to be passed on immediately to the German and French banks. To pacify angry German parliamentarians, that gargantuan loan was given on condition of brutal austerity for the Greek people, placing them in a permanent great depression.
To get a feel for the devastation that ensued, imagine what would have happened in the UK if RBS, Lloyds and the other City banks had been rescued without the help of the Bank of England and solely via foreign loans to the exchequer. All granted on the condition that UK wages would be reduced by 40%, pensions by 45%, the minimum wage by 30%, NHS spending by 32%. The UK would now be the wasteland of Europe, just as Greece is today.
But did this nightmare not end last week? Not in the slightest. Technically speaking, the Greek bailouts had two components. The first entailed the EU and the IMF granting the Greek government some financial facility by which to pretend to be repaying its debts. Then there was the harsh austerity taking the form of ridiculously high tax rates and savage cuts in pensions, wages, public health and education.
Last week, the third bailout package did end, just as the second had ended in 2015 and the first in 2012. We now have a fourth such package that differs from the past three in two unimportant ways. Instead of new loans, payments of €96.6bn that were due to begin in 2023 will be deferred until after 2032, when the monies must be repaid with interest on top of other large repayments previously scheduled. And, second, instead of calling it a fourth bailout, the EU has named it, triumphantly, the “end of the bailout”.
Ridiculously high VAT and small business tax rates will, of course, continue, as will fresh pension cuts and new punitive income tax rates for the poorest that have been scheduled for 2019. The Greek government has also committed to maintaining a long-term budget surplus target, not counting debt repayments (3.5% of national income until 2021, and 2.2% during 2022-2060) that demands permanent austerity, a target that the IMF itself gives less than 6% probability of ever being attained by any eurozone country.
In summary, after having bailed out French and German banks at the expense of Europe’s poorest citizens, and after having turned Greece into a debtor’s prison, last week Greece’s creditors decided to declare victory. Having put Greece into a coma, they made it permanent and declared it “stability”: they pushed our people off a cliff and celebrated their bounce off the hard rock of a great depression as proof of “recovery”. To quote Tacitus, they made a desert and called it peace.
Yanis Varoufakis is the co-founder of DiEM25 and the former finance minister of Greece
I seem to remember him being questioned about this and he didn't seem to mind that he had just made the figure up. Saying that I've listened to his radio show on LBC a few times and it really is lie after lie after lie that spouts from his mouth, not opinion just complete fabrication such as 90% of new homes are given to immigrants. I'm amazed he gets away with flat out lies live on air, but hey ho he's Nige man of the people, he's rightfully banking on one thing, he will never be in a position to have to see through the promises he makes which are completely unachievable and most certainly unsustainable.
Similar to Corbyn who made loads of election promises that were unachieveable without the 'Magic Money Tree' or taxing us till the pips squeak. As long as you follow the old adage 'All politicians are liars' you won't go far wrong. Liar is the one thing the Honourable Members are not allowed to call each in the House, that says it all...
That doesn’t sound similar to Corbyn.
I doubt Corbyn would have found £1bn to bung the DUP either.
Any money he found under the tree would have ended up in the manufacture of zyclon b
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