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So does one community doing it make it right for all?

We have a police force for things like this, if people want to help they should join up.
1 group is set up to protect property in wealthy Jewish neighbourhoods as they don't trust the Met Police to do it .

The other is a bunch of weirdos dressing like they are doing a Nativity pantomime and insist that normal people join in with their madness.

If you can't fathom that then you are not very bright.
 
1 group is set up to protect property in wealthy Jewish neighbourhoods as they don't trust the Met Police to do it .

The other is a bunch of weirdos dressing like they are doing a Nativity pantomime and insist that normal people join in with their madness.

If you can't fathom that then you are not very bright.


With his dark-blue uniform, earpiece and walkie-talkie, Nochem Perlberger could pass for a police officer as he patrols the leafy streets of London’s Stamford Hill neighbourhood. Like an officer of the law, he responds to emergency calls, visits crime scenes and pursues suspects.

However, he is a member not of the constabulary but of the Stamford Hill Shomrim Rescue Patrol, a group of Orthodox Jewish men who, for the past two years, have been “policing” the streets of their community in Hackney.

Set up nearly two years ago, the group now has 22 patrolling members, a headquarters and even a 24-hour emergency number, staffed by six operators, which residents call to report crime. “Every house and child in the community knows this number off by heart,” said Mr Perlberger, one of the group’s committee members.

Sounds like a separate police force for Jews to me

I take it if Muslims did one like this round your way you'd be ok with it?
 
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1 group is set up to protect property in wealthy Jewish neighbourhoods as they don't trust the Met Police to do it .

The other is a bunch of weirdos dressing like they are doing a Nativity pantomime and insist that normal people join in with their madness.

If you can't fathom that then you are not very bright.
So you think it's ok for religions to make bigger divides in community, ok.

By the way, this is England not Israel. We have a policy of treating all as one here with one law not segregating, that is the problem some just want their own ways and refuse to fit in.
 
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Agree with that. Didn’t realise the security you were talking about was for Jewish people only.

Yeah mate. Here is what the police had to say about it

Hackney’s borough commander, Chief Superintendent Steve Bending, said: “Whilst I have a great amount of respect for the Orthodox Jewish Community within Hackney, I do not support the concept of any community having its own form of patrol service. There is a risk of other communities feeling intimidated by this course of action.


When the group was established in 2008, Supt Steve Dann, the then Hackney commander, said: “I am very upset that no-one has approached me about this. It has been done behind my back. I see this as a slight against me that we were not delivering a service.”

when the Golders Green group came into existence earlier this year the then commander Chief Supt Steve Kavanagh said: “Uniformed patrols which communities are asked to pay for make me extremely nervous.”
 
So you think it's ok for religions to make bigger divides in community, ok.

By the way, this is England not Israel. We have a policy of treating all as one here with one law not segregating, that is the problem some just want their own ways and refuse to fit in.
If you go to a shopping mall they employ security , on your own property you can take steps to do that.

They are not shooting unarmed black children like actual cops .

They are trying to fill the void filled by criminals in London especially in the most cosmopolitan areas.
 
Yeah mate. Here is what the police had to say about it

Hackney’s borough commander, Chief Superintendent Steve Bending, said: “Whilst I have a great amount of respect for the Orthodox Jewish Community within Hackney, I do not support the concept of any community having its own form of patrol service. There is a risk of other communities feeling intimidated by this course of action.


When the group was established in 2008, Supt Steve Dann, the then Hackney commander, said: “I am very upset that no-one has approached me about this. It has been done behind my back. I see this as a slight against me that we were not delivering a service.”

when the Golders Green group came into existence earlier this year the then commander Chief Supt Steve Kavanagh said: “Uniformed patrols which communities are asked to pay for make me extremely nervous.”

To me it sounds like some mafia style protection thing. Own laws for your own people, which goes against everything I believe.
 
If you go to a shopping mall they employ security , on your own property you can take steps to do that.

They are not shooting unarmed black children like actual cops .

They are trying to fill the void filled by criminals in London especially in the most cosmopolitan areas.
Own property? do they own the streets like some kind of gang culture?

The most "cosmopolitan" areas shouldn't have one community enforcing their laws on all <ok>
 
Own property? do they own the streets like some kind of gang culture?

The most "cosmopolitan" areas shouldn't have one community enforcing their laws on all <ok>
They do you plumb they are called the Police and If your car is broken into you may get a call out after a few hours .

The Jew cops are ridiculous but they don't go hassling people for not being Jews.
 
To me it sounds like some mafia style protection thing. Own laws for your own people, which goes against everything I believe.


In america different Jews have set up different "forces" and fight each other now. So in Brooklyn for example the police are having to stop two different "security" forces slashing each others tyres and fighting as well as the criminals

In London there have been reports of harassment of those not wanted, including people selling pork sausages etc

But the areas have Jewish councillors etc so any police remarks get put down immediately.
 
I dont see how you can condem one and condone the other.Both are wrong surely.
Both are unneeded one is way worse and intrusive .
The Yids are not so in your face for a start but the Sharia mugs have probably been beaten up by offended gays by now ...