The Mural

<laugh> Didn't expect Tel and Sweats to go at it so quickly tbh
Religion and race are the worst subjects to introduce to any discussion. As long as you’re a decent human being I honestly couldn’t give a flying **** what colour you are or what religion you do or don’t follow/believe in. Why pre-judge anyone?

As an example that I’m always happy to highlight in every post, the comments in my sig are the words of a person whose mindset is utterly baffling to me. I’d hate to view the world in such a prejudiced and scared way as it’s an incredibly negative way to live your life.
 
I would imagine they are probably the best known banking families, so that's why they were depicted. As far as I know neither the Rockerfellers or Morgans are Jewish.
Rockefeller was a Baptist. Morgan was Episcopalian.

The problem is probably down to the way it looks.
The whole mural is rather reminiscent of a lot of explicitly anti-Semitic art from the past.
The artist himself just seems to be a conspiracy loon, but that doesn't really get him off the hook, as it's a very anti-Semitic community.
Scratch the surface and it's remarkable how many of these supposed plots boil down to "Der Jewz!!!", unfortunately.
 
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Rockefeller was a Baptist. Morgan was Episcopalian.

The problem is probably down to the way it looks.
The whole mural is rather reminiscent of a lot of explicitly anti-Semitic art from the past.
The artist himself just seems to be a conspiracy loon, but that doesn't really get him off the hook, as it's a very anti-Semitic community.
Scratch the surface and it's remarkable how many of these supposed plots boil down to "Der Jewz!!!", unfortunately.

New world order..

They’re all Jews apparently ..

Sound like a good band though.
 
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I’m not bothered you try and keep yourself ‘fit’. You’re clearly trying to make up for something lacking in your life.

Or perhaps you like taking selfies in front of a car you don’t own.

As to the Jewish community, the Hasidic one in particular. They are more racist than anyone I’ve ever met. My mate lived in north London and got refused childcare, got refused things in shops because they would only sell them to other Jews. If your local corner shop did the same to a Muslim they’d get their livelihood ruined..

As it goes I don’t have some deep ingrained issue with Jews, I don’t like anyone who is overly religious. But Jews appear and I do say appear to be able to get away with anything due to how they were treated at the hands of nazi Germany.

One of my mates was very anti Semitic. Due in large part to being a paranoid stoner and read stuff on the internet. So to balance his opinion went to Israel for three weeks. He liked the normal Jewish people but still came back from the place with the solid belief they’re inherently racist due to how they were treated. Does that make their actions acceptable? I’d say not.

So there you go. <ok>

Do you have any experiences of your own with them? I'd assume you'd list those ones first.
 
Refused childcare by who? That's a bit vague.

What’s vague about it?? They lived in an area full of of Hasidic Jews. They were not allowed to place their child in 3 nurseries. They had to drive their child miles to do so, so they wouldn’t dilute the Hasidic children’s upbringing.

Imagine if your stereo typical English village nursery did that to a Muslim child they’d be hung out to dry. Which is where my anger toward the Jewish community emanates from. The world turns a blind eye to them treating Palestinians like subhumans, much in the same way as South Africa did the indigenous black community. The world tried to do something about South Africa but we don’t with the Palestinians. It’s a disgrace. That the world allows it to go on just because they were persecuted themselves.

Now if you want to call me a **** for holding that belief then more fool you. I’m sure people on here will hold you in high esteem.
 
What’s vague about it?? They lived in an area full of of Hasidic Jews. They were not allowed to place their child in 3 nurseries. They had to drive their child miles to do so, so they wouldn’t dilute the Hasidic children’s upbringing.

Imagine if your stereo typical English village nursery did that to a Muslim child they’d be hung out to dry. Which is where my anger toward the Jewish community emanates from. The world turns a blind eye to them treating Palestinians like subhumans, much in the same way as South Africa did the indigenous black community. The world tried to do something about South Africa but we don’t with the Palestinians. It’s a disgrace. That the world allows it to go on just because they were persecuted themselves.

Now if you want to call me a **** for holding that belief then more fool you. I’m sure people on here will hold you in high esteem.

So you don't like Jews and form an opinion on Jews based on an ultra-orthodox sub-sect of the religion and also based on Israelis? You know not all Jews are Israelis and vice versa right?
 
So you don't like Jews and form an opinion on Jews based on an ultra-orthodox sub-sect of the religion and also based on Israelis? You know not all Jews are Israelis and vice versa right?

So do Israel persecute Palestinians? Are you denying this??

Do Israelis take land they shouldn’t have from them? Do they cut off services to them? Do they starve them of their basic human rights? Palestinians are treated on a par if not worse than black people were in South Africa. That is a fact. Due to America being backed by Jews they do nothing about it. I’m not condoning the holocaust but what was done to Jewish people doesn’t make it acceptable they seem to have some divine right to ruin another country’s people the right to exist. Now not everyone in Israel is a mental Hasidic but they still do what they do without recourse.

If you want to tell me my opinion on that is wrong by all means go ahead.
 
So do Israel persecute Palestinians? Are you denying this??

Do Israelis take land they shouldn’t have from them? Do they cut off services to them? Do they starve them of their basic human rights? Palestinians are treated on a par if not worse than black people were in South Africa. That is a fact. Due to America being backed by Jews they do nothing about it. I’m not condoning the holocaust but what was done to Jewish people doesn’t make it acceptable they seem to have some divine right to ruin another country’s people the right to exist. Now not everyone in Israel is a mental Hasidic but they still do what they do without recourse.

If you want to tell me my opinion on that is wrong by all means go ahead.

****ing hell pal do you read any of my replies, there's actually no point talking to you at all is there?

You are suggesting the Jewish equivalent of tarnishing all Muslims with the actions of Saudi Arabia.
 
This is a mural that was commissioned for a wall in East London in 2012, called Freedom for humanity, by some ‘artist’ calling him/herself Mear One.

It’s blatantly anti Semitic, so much so that at the time the then mayor Rahman - a Muslim - ordered its removal.

The ‘artist’ complained and was backed up by Corbyn on Facebook, saying “You’re in good company, Rockefeller destroyed Diego Viera’s picture because it includes a picture of Lenin”

I’m sure many people will ask why Corbyn felt it necessary to offer support to such a blatant piece of anti Semitic trash!
So some Jewish people are bankers and others have ordinary mundane jobs what’s anti Semitic about it? To me it just relates to a secret society. But that’s art eh? Everybody sees what they want.
 
****ing hell pal do you read any of my replies, there's actually no point talking to you at all is there?

You are suggesting the Jewish equivalent of tarnishing all Muslims with the actions of Saudi Arabia.

You asked me; if my opinion was based on a minority of Jews. I replied giving you the actions of Israel. When have I mentioned Saudi Arabia? What the **** you on about??

I’ve merely justified my opinion based on the actions of their country not just the minority of wizards in north London.
 
You asked me; if my opinion was based on a minority of Jews. I replied giving you the actions of Israel. When have I mentioned Saudi Arabia? What the **** you on about??

I’ve merely justified my opinion based on the actions of their country not just the minority of wizards in north London.

K mate.

You have a nice Easter <ok>
 
As I’ve said, I and many others disagree. The message the artist was trying to push is an anti Semitic one.

Disagree with that. There’s an interview with the artist that states the opposite. People may have read the ‘anti-semite’ agenda into it, but that wasn’t one the artist set out to ‘push’. I’ll try and dig the article out later.
 
Disagree with that. There’s an interview with the artist that states the opposite. People may have read the ‘anti-semite’ agenda into it, but that wasn’t one the artist set out to ‘push’. I’ll try and dig the article out later.


He’s hardly gonna admit it, is he?

The message is clear enough to me, as it is to many others.
 
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