The "Mighty Juggernaut" thread

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HiaG, I never really understand how doing a gig is worthwhile, other than for fun of course, the return for what you put in is quite poor.

Just simple maths of splitting £300 four ways is £75 each, but take out the cost of travel, the gear including marketing, setting up and actually gigging, then clearing up after, lot of hours for very little return. That's excluding practice time but you would do that as a musician anyway, and some of the equipment cost is absorbed into that interest as well.
Most people have to pay for their hobbies, though. If you break even and enjoy it, then you're doing well.
 
Most people have to pay for their hobbies, though. If you break even and enjoy it, then you're doing well.

I'm not knocking it, just seems a lot of bloody effort. The logistics of just getting it all together would piss me off. I'm not even sure the gig money would pay for the kit they have, unless gigging a lot of weekends.

My mate gigs but he's professional and teaches music as well, so his costs are absorbed into his lessons.
 
I'm not knocking it, just seems a lot of bloody effort. The logistics of just getting it all together would piss me off. I'm not even sure the gig money would pay for the kit they have, unless gigging a lot of weekends.

My mate gigs but he's professional and teaches music as well, so his costs are absorbed into his lessons.
I doubt that many people do it for the money. If you're looking at it from a purely financial position, then I'm sure you're right.
 
HiaG, I never really understand how doing a gig is worthwhile, other than for fun of course, the return for what you put in is quite poor.

Just simple maths of splitting £300 four ways is £75 each, but take out the cost of travel, the gear including marketing, setting up and actually gigging, then clearing up after, lot of hours for very little return. That's excluding practice time but you would do that as a musician anyway, and some of the equipment cost is absorbed into that interest as well.

We charge between £800-£1000 for a gig and don’t make any money personally out of it. We pay our soundman and singer £100 each and the rest goes in the pot for rent on the studio, fuel expenses to and from gigs and to help maintain the equipment, buy new mics and cables etc.
 
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We charge between £800-£1000 for a gig and don’t make any money personally out of it. We pay our soundman and singer £100 each and the rest goes in the pot for rent on the studio, fuel expenses to and from gigs and to help maintain the equipment, buy new mics and cables etc.
Is your singer not part of the band?
 
I doubt that many people do it for the money. If you're looking at it from a purely financial position, then I'm sure you're right.

I think it takes balls for him to get up there, I'll give him that, so he must enjoy it. He looked liked he was flapping around a bit at times, but i'm sure he is better than first impressions give, most those punters wouldn't even know if he was having a bad evening playing, so he needs to relax more, quoting Beethoven, playing a wrong note is insignificant, to play without passion is inexcusable.

I know nothing about drums but it looked like the drummer was holding it all together and the singer is just attempting stuff not suited to his voice, jeez i've heard better karoke, and the band is tone-deaf if they think he is going to get better. They need to decide on what works best and stick with it, keep the other stuff for playing around with.
 
We charge between £800-£1000 for a gig and don’t make any money personally out of it. We pay our soundman and singer £100 each and the rest goes in the pot for rent on the studio, fuel expenses to and from gigs and to help maintain the equipment, buy new mics and cables etc.

Well it's a bit more than £300 <laugh>
 
Well it's a bit more than £300 <laugh>

It just wouldn’t work for us at £300. By the time we’ve paid the singer and soundman and taken out expenses, we’d be out of pocket.

That said, we have played gigs for free / beer etc when it’s been for mates or parties / festivals that we want to be a part of. But we have to play some paid gigs just to balance the books.
 
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It just wouldn’t work for us at £300. By the time we’ve paid the singer and soundman and taken out expenses, we’d be out of pocket.

That said, we have played gigs for free / beer etc when it’s been for mates or parties / festivals that we want to be a part of. But we have to play some paid gigs just to balance the books.

What sort of stuff do you play?
 
The vocal was abysmal. I haven’t heard the guy sing anything else, so difficult to comment on his overall vocal ability, but his Ozzy impersonation leaves much to be desired.

Hiag, mate. You need to drive that number. You can’t pussy foot around with a song like Paranoid - It’s the original hard rock song, and Iommi’s guitar drives it with that riff. You need to do the same, there should be a hard, menacing sound to it.

But if that’s the best the vocalist can do, maybe you should drop it from the set?
 
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HiaG, I never really understand how doing a gig is worthwhile, other than for fun of course, the return for what you put in is quite poor.

Just simple maths of splitting £300 four ways is £75 each, but take out the cost of travel, the gear including marketing, setting up and actually gigging, then clearing up after, lot of hours for very little return. That's excluding practice time but you would do that as a musician anyway, and some of the equipment cost is absorbed into that interest as well.

Do you have a hobby that you love?

Do you get paid every time you indulge in it?

By the way, our average fee is around £450.

Most gigs are local, so petrol is a small cost. The setting up and breaking down is all part of the fun with the boys.

Playing live in front of an audience is always a rush for me.

If it ever stops being fun, I'll go back to being a bedroom guitarist, like the hundreds of thousands out there.
 
Do you have a hobby that you love?

Do you get paid every time you indulge in it?

By the way, our average fee is around £450.

Most gigs are local, so petrol is a small cost. The setting up and breaking down is all part of the fun with the boys.

Playing live in front of an audience is always a rush for me.

If it ever stops being fun, I'll go back to being a bedroom guitarist, like the hundreds of thousands out there.

Does the singer own the PA gear or the van mate?