Most people have to pay for their hobbies, though. If you break even and enjoy it, then you're doing well.HiaG, I never really understand how doing a gig is worthwhile, other than for fun of course, the return for what you put in is quite poor.
Just simple maths of splitting £300 four ways is £75 each, but take out the cost of travel, the gear including marketing, setting up and actually gigging, then clearing up after, lot of hours for very little return. That's excluding practice time but you would do that as a musician anyway, and some of the equipment cost is absorbed into that interest as well.
Most people have to pay for their hobbies, though. If you break even and enjoy it, then you're doing well.
Maybe he gets a kick out of playing to god’s waiting room.

I doubt that many people do it for the money. If you're looking at it from a purely financial position, then I'm sure you're right.I'm not knocking it, just seems a lot of bloody effort. The logistics of just getting it all together would piss me off. I'm not even sure the gig money would pay for the kit they have, unless gigging a lot of weekends.
My mate gigs but he's professional and teaches music as well, so his costs are absorbed into his lessons.
HiaG, I never really understand how doing a gig is worthwhile, other than for fun of course, the return for what you put in is quite poor.
Just simple maths of splitting £300 four ways is £75 each, but take out the cost of travel, the gear including marketing, setting up and actually gigging, then clearing up after, lot of hours for very little return. That's excluding practice time but you would do that as a musician anyway, and some of the equipment cost is absorbed into that interest as well.
Is your singer not part of the band?We charge between £800-£1000 for a gig and don’t make any money personally out of it. We pay our soundman and singer £100 each and the rest goes in the pot for rent on the studio, fuel expenses to and from gigs and to help maintain the equipment, buy new mics and cables etc.
Is your singer not part of the band?
Can you give her number to Hilary?She is, but she came in on board after the band were formed and we took the collective decision to pay her. For the rest of us it’s just a hobby.
I doubt that many people do it for the money. If you're looking at it from a purely financial position, then I'm sure you're right.
Can you give her number to Hilary?
We are addressing certain issues with him. He’s determined to improve.
We charge between £800-£1000 for a gig and don’t make any money personally out of it. We pay our soundman and singer £100 each and the rest goes in the pot for rent on the studio, fuel expenses to and from gigs and to help maintain the equipment, buy new mics and cables etc.

The issue you need to address with him, is that he’s absolutely ****e mate.
You need to sack him off.



Well it's a bit more than £300![]()
It just wouldn’t work for us at £300. By the time we’ve paid the singer and soundman and taken out expenses, we’d be out of pocket.
That said, we have played gigs for free / beer etc when it’s been for mates or parties / festivals that we want to be a part of. But we have to play some paid gigs just to balance the books.
HiaG, I never really understand how doing a gig is worthwhile, other than for fun of course, the return for what you put in is quite poor.
Just simple maths of splitting £300 four ways is £75 each, but take out the cost of travel, the gear including marketing, setting up and actually gigging, then clearing up after, lot of hours for very little return. That's excluding practice time but you would do that as a musician anyway, and some of the equipment cost is absorbed into that interest as well.
What sort of stuff do you play?
Do you have a hobby that you love?
Do you get paid every time you indulge in it?
By the way, our average fee is around £450.
Most gigs are local, so petrol is a small cost. The setting up and breaking down is all part of the fun with the boys.
Playing live in front of an audience is always a rush for me.
If it ever stops being fun, I'll go back to being a bedroom guitarist, like the hundreds of thousands out there.