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Now Putin has finally decided to invade Ukraine, I hope and pray that this date 22.02.2022,will not be a date we never forget.
Putin and his cronies have started the rebuilding of the Soviet Union.
Am I worried for World peace?
At this moment I am.

I really hope I am wrong<smooch><rose>
 
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Bure budgie said:
Now Putin has finally decided to invade Ukraine, I hope and pray that this date 22.02.2022,will not be a date we never forget.
Putin and his cronies have started the rebuilding of the Soviet Union.
Am I worried for World peace?
At this moment I am.

I really hope I am wrong<smooch><rose>
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I'm worried too, feeling really anxious at the moment.
 
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woodbine said:
I'm worried too, feeling really anxious at the moment.
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Me too, plus doing away with testing for covid, no need to self-isolate, in fact pretending we've got covid by the balls - when, in fact, the complete opposite is true scares me to death.
What about immuno-suppressed cancer patients, for example. haven't they got enough to worry about already?
With a new variant of omicron rampant in Denmark, Ireland, etc this world is a very dodgy place to inhabit at the moment. :(
 
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The whole Ukrainian business is scary unfortunately it reminds me of the start of WWII... but I need to free my oppressed people, takes a slice out of the neighbouring country.....
 
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Walsh.i.am said:
Me too, plus doing away with testing for covid, no need to self-isolate, in fact pretending we've got covid by the balls - when, in fact, the complete opposite is true scares me to death.
What about immuno-suppressed cancer patients, for example. haven't they got enough to worry about already?
With a new variant of omicron rampant in Denmark, Ireland, etc this world is a very dodgy place to inhabit at the moment. :(
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Everything is looking a bit grim, got this constant knot feeling in my stomach.

Doesn't help we've got a clown of our own running this Country.
 
All we can do is take our 4th booster and Pray Joe Biden saves us all from tyranny.

He should maybe help Trudeau drone strike those Canadian trucker Nazis first .
 
Remember this quote,
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

We need to stamp on this evil tyrant.
 
America did such a fine job liberating Afghanistan Iraq Syria and Libya.

They left those countries free and Democratic.
 
Bure budgie said:
So you would rather have Putin policing the world.
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Is that what he's been doing as America with our help bombed and destabilised the Middle East over the last 2 decades ?

We shouldn't have invaded Iraq over pretend WMD's Afghanistan Lybia or Syria .

All of these wars were based on lies and cost trillions of tax payers money .

Much of it going to the Military industrial complex that prop up the Biden government.


Let The EUROPEAN UNION and Americans deal with it , Lithuania and Romania have US missile bases on their territory pointing at Russia.

The Ukrainian regime are ultra far right Nationalists put in as puppets .

I wouldn't let my sons give up their lives on foreign soil in a dispute that has nothing to do with us .

Our economy is toast but there's always billions to spare to get into pointless wars it seems.
 
Not going to get involved in a slanging match DD.
You obviously are pro Putin, so I will leave it at that
 
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Not going to get involved in a slanging match DD.
You obviously are pro Putin, so I will leave it at that
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I'm not Pro Putin , it's not a slanging match I'm against permanent International War with America being the aggressors in my lifetime.

Millions marched against Blair illegally invading Iraq but he went ahead anyway causing millions of unnecessary deaths mainly of Brown Muslim people .

Just switch off BBC News it's been non stop fear porn over Covid for the last 2 years and now it's all forgotten and Russia Russia Russia now .

There won't be a WW3 as it's guaranteed mutual destruction by Nukes .

Nobody is taking about Boris flouting lockdown rules anymore or covid mandates .

That's all magically disappeared
 
Trouble is, if or most likely when Russia attacks Ukraine, they'll be breaking international law, and that will be the world problem. Also, after they're done with Ukraine, will they stop there?

No, it's not really Nato or Ukraine.
 
Putin is trying to build himself a buffer against the Western Block by making a new Eastern block, but I think the motives are different from America's in conflicts. Putin wants to build a new Soviet Empire, America is naive and gung ho, but I also genuinely believe they want to try and make the world a better place.

I think I can somewhat illustrate my points about the Yanks in some of the middle east conflicts over the past 20 years:

Afgan- America wanted revenge on those who harboured the terrorists who massacred the civilians in 9/11, they didn't attack anyone immediately, but worked out who had done the attack and then went for them. They did well in the initial phase then not so well in the rebuild, probably because their principles got in the way. I don't think the Americans would have ever thought this way but I would have starved the Taliban of finance once militarily in charge by buying the opium off the farmers and paying more money that the Taliban.

Iraq - GW wanted to finish his father's conflict - Saddam was a tyrant but kept a lid on all the other nutjobs in Iraq. In 2020 hindsight it would have been far better to remove Saddam during the first Gulf War (With the start of the 2nd Gulf War there were WMD lies plus Saddam was playing games with the weapon inspectors time and again. In the conflict again the American's did well militarily and then dropped the ball with how to deal with it afterwards. The British kept far more structure from the regime trying to modify the existing power structure to remove those who were dodgy and promoting able experienced men who were already familiar with leading. The Americans - all Ba'ath party were removed leading to destabilisation exploiting by radical Islamics and then that spread to the British controlled areas.

Syria- Another 'strongman' Vs various rebels. This was one where neither side was a shining beacon of hope, I always said with this better the devil you know with Assad, but I think it was a genuine desire to help the populous that America got involved. Bomb something/ everything before realising hang on I'm not sure which side are the bad guys

As said in Team America (if you don't like bad language don't watch) - Team America = USA, F.A.G- EU?, Kim Jong Il- Putin:
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Any war in Ukraine will be bloody and Putin will just keep doing it if he is not stopped and regularly attack the smaller countries around him to keep them bent to his will.
 
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The only US president that didn't get involved in war in my lifetime was Orange Hitler.

As soon as Biden got in the War machine spluttered into life .

He even armed Afghanistan to the teeth on the way out for future conflicts in the region.

America (C.I.A) invented Al qaeda to fight against Russia in Afghanistan, they trained and armed the Iraqi military who eventually left their weapons for ISIS.
They trained and armed ISIS to overthrow Assad and they train and arm the Ukrainian ultra far right puppet government .



Before this they armed and funded the Iran Contras under Bush and Reagan in Nicaragua.

China pretty much owns America now they are our biggest threat .
 
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