The EU debate - Part III

[Star of David Bardsley]

So ****ing what?

Well it's obviously really, really bad. They'll want the vote next.

 

[Tobes]

Ho hum, tedious tobes being tedious tobes, desperately spinning for a way of ****ing up a discussion and trying to lay the blame elsewhere.

Before you came in wriggling, the conversation was about asylum and immigration. Any views?

I've already spoken about it.

We were discussing your comment;

So the chant at your march would be, "what do we want" " not that". I think it's already being used by various left leaning protests.

That you then claimed was;

Funnily enough, it was based on clips from remaonians

I'm asking you to justify that comment with some actual facts, as I'm calling bollocks on it, that plain enough for you?

 

[Archers Road]

Well it's obviously really, really bad. They'll want the vote next.

****ing foreigners, coming over here marrying our fat accountants.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

****ing foreigners, coming over here marrying our fat accountants.

Ula never bore Pete a son to add to the statistics he so despises, fortunately.

 

[Tobes]

Ula never bore Pete a son to add to the statistics he so despises, fortunately.

Ironically she came over and bailed out his sorry arse with her life's savings.

A great example of an immigrant coming to these shores and adding to the economy

 

[Stan]

70 per cent of newborns in London have at least one foreign parent - and the figure is 33 per cent across the rest of England and Wales
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ure-high-86-London-suburbs.html#ixzz4Rb48qtu7

If you'd managed to keep it up long enough to impregnate your missus, your kid would have had a foreign parent you dopey ****

 

[armchairblue]

250,000 are homeless.

But there is something else that needs to be considered and that is whether there is enough rooms to house everyone.

35% of houses have 2 or more unoccupied bedroom.
35% of houses have 1 unoccupied bedroom
26% have number of bedrooms matching number of expected occupants
4.5% are overcrowded.

Across the country we have nearly 2 bedrooms per person when 40 years ago it was 1.4.

Far to much of the housing built is too large for our needs because it demands a bigger price. To much social housing has been lost or is underutilised.

That 250k should be housed before any newcomers.Charity should begin at home.

 

[The Prime Minister]

That 250k should be housed before any newcomers.Charity should begin at home.

Unless you are a leftwing twat, like many here.

 

[The Prime Minister]

British Pound Burns Higher v Euro & Dollar as Davis' Single Market Access Comments Signal Soft-Brexit

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/g...p-to-eur-and-usd-manufacturing-pmi-december-1

 

[Stan]

Unless you are a leftwing twat, like many here.

This is another chance for you to provide a direct quote to someone saying immigrants should be housed as a priority ahead of the homeless.

Crack on.

 

[Stan]

British Pound Burns Higher v Euro & Dollar as Davis' Single Market Access Comments Signal Soft-Brexit

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/g...p-to-eur-and-usd-manufacturing-pmi-december-1

Further confirmation that the softer the Brexit, the better for Britain. Thanks for providing the link.

 

[armchairblue]

There's a lot of help available for the homeless. Many choose not to be helped.

Maybe the the people you say choose not to be helped actually need more help than the others?

 

[steveninaster1]

That 250k should be housed before any newcomers.Charity should begin at home.

The idea that there are 250k individuals that stay the same is detached from reality.

By the time you have housed 50k, 50k will have found permanent accommodation by themselves and 50k will have become homeless.

So where do these newcomers slot into this system if the system never manages to house everyone and who do you blame for this failure?

Your argument is that because our government is screwing up so badly that we should not accept newcomers, mine is the government needs to get its act together

 

[armchairblue]

The idea that there are 250k individuals that stay the same is detached from reality.

By the time you have housed 50k, 50k will have found permanent accommodation by themselves and 50k will have become homeless.

So where do these newcomers slot into this system if the system never manages to house everyone and who do you blame for this failure?

Your argument is that because our government is screwing up so badly that we should not accept newcomers, mine is the government needs to get its act together

I only give my opinion.No stats,figures or links.Agree the government need their arses kicked.
Why they can't sort out the housing situation is beyond me....Best not even talk about waiting lists.

 

[Blueman]

Other things being equal, I'd agree with you. I wouldn't personally allocate a single English bloke a property over a foreign family though, for example.

We disagree then I'm afraid mate.

 

[Tobes]

The idea that there are 250k individuals that stay the same is detached from reality.

By the time you have housed 50k, 50k will have found permanent accommodation by themselves and 50k will have become homeless.

So where do these newcomers slot into this system if the system never manages to house everyone and who do you blame for this failure?

Your argument is that because our government is screwing up so badly that we should not accept newcomers, mine is the government needs to get its act together

This ^

The entire issue is down to the lack of social or affordable housing. It's an accepted fact that immigration adds to the economy and yet the Govt has failed to invest in the infrastructure to cope with the growth, combined with not covering the ever decreasing amount of social housing due to right to buy.

The issues haven't been tackled as there's been no political will to, not because the issues were insurmountable. Instead of channelling cash where it's most needed we're going to spew cash away on Trident and a vanity project like HS2.

The issues could easily be remedied, but the simple fact is that they've failed to make it a political priority and instead have allowed the right to point the finger of blame at immigrants which in my view is political cowardice

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Maybe the the people you say choose not to be helped actually need more help than the others?

They often do but if they reject/avoid help, what can you do?

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

We disagree then I'm afraid mate.

I know mate but we are still best friends.

 

[armchairblue]

I know mate but we are still best friends.

You're not his best friend,cos i am,got it?!

 

[NSIS]

Further confirmation that the softer the Brexit, the better for Britain. Thanks for providing the link.

I should have thought that was blindingly obvious. I suppose it is, to most. But apparently, not all!...