The EU debate - Part III

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DMD said:
But western governments don't always benefit, which was the topic under disucssion rather than you trying to find an isolated exception, which nobody disupted exsisted.

Happy to help. <ok>
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The West generally benefits not only from the arms trade, but also from the contracts for rebuilding the mess that's been left behind after their use - see Iraq for details.
 
DMD said:
So the chant at your march would be, "what do we want" " not that".

I think it's already being used by various left leaning protests.

It's a bit like protestors being interviwed in tv studios demanding to be heard, but then when they get the chance, can only repeat to the gloabl audience that their main aim is to be heard, but that they've not got round to deciding what the message beyond that is yet.
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You've just summed up the Leave campaign.
 
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Tobes said:
The West generally benefits not only from the arms trade, but also from the contracts for rebuilding the mess that's been left behind after their use - see Iraq for details.
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Not half as much as the multi-nationals do.
 
Watford_R said:
I wasn't disagreeing with your "solution". I was saying it wasn't a solution at all, just an idealistic strategy to help the neediest so we're equal on that score IMO.

The problem, for me at least, is a lack of supply of housing and other services. Some have an issue with the demand side i.e. foreigners wanting to live here. Address the supply side issues by ignoring the NIMBYs when it comes to building and allocating resources away from areas like space exploration and misused foreign aid.

The problem then just becomes one for people who don't like immigrants regardless.
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One of the isues with the housing issue, is that southern counties are sending their dross up here, but we get no extra income to support them. The southern housing issue is driven by wealthy property owners. It's a side issue to immiigration and asylum.
 
DMD said:
Funnily enough, it was based on clips from remaonians, black lives matters and other social justice warriors. <ok>
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I don't see how that statement;

So the chant at your march would be, "what do we want" " not that".

Fits with Remain in any, way, shape or form. It was the mantra of Brexit.

What's round the corner then? Who knows, but it'll be sound honest.
 
Stan said:
From the Marxist BBC

"The UK would consider making payments to the EU after it leaves the bloc to secure the best possible access to the EU single market, Brexit Secretary David Davis has said."

"He said reports Boris Johnson backed freedom of movement were "at odds" with what he knew of Mr Johnson's views."

What a shambles <laugh>
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Boris' views are an open book tbh. It's fairly obvious that despite being an unprincipled self serving toe rag, the one thing Boris isn't is ****ing stupid. So, unlike notorious ******s Kusturd, Kitchen Kunt and KFC, he will have voted Remain.
 
Tobes said:
I don't see how that statement;

So the chant at your march would be, "what do we want" " not that".

Fits with Remain in any, way, shape or form. It was the mantra of Brexit.

What's round the corner then? Who knows, but it'll be sound honest.
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As replies go, that just looks a tad silly and desperate.

It's a shame really, there was a conversation going on, but once again, you and a couple of others drag it down to nonsense. :emoticon-0113-sleep
 
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DMD said:
One of the isues with the housing issue, is that southern counties are sending their dross up here, but we get no extra income to support them. The southern housing issue is driven by wealthy property owners. It's a side issue to immiigration and asylum.
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... no sympathy at all I'm afraid .... you fcukers sent Pete south <whistle>
 
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Stan said:
From the Marxist BBC

"The UK would consider making payments to the EU after it leaves the bloc to secure the best possible access to the EU single market, Brexit Secretary David Davis has said."

"He said reports Boris Johnson backed freedom of movement were "at odds" with what he knew of Mr Johnson's views."

What a shambles <laugh>
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So the man who spouted that immigration was out of control and a vote for Leave would reduce immigration, not to mention his bollocks about 5 million Turks arriving shortly - actually thinks freedom of movement is a good thing.

And Dickhead Davis who only weeks ago was of the opinion that a vote for Brexit meant leaving the single market, now thinks we should continue to pay for access.

They're flip flopping like HIAG on a bad day.
 
DMD said:
As replies go, that just looks a tad silly and depserate.

It's a shame really, there was a conversation going on, but once again, you and a couple of others drag it down to nonsense. :emoticon-0113-sleep
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WTF? <laugh> CODE FOR: I've got nowhere to go here, so I'll deflect and say he's disrupting the discussion <doh>

Why don't you post the link to prove your claim that Remain supporters made that statement, as it doesn't fit with Remain at all sweet heart, only in your somewhat forgetful little head.
 
Tobes said:
WTF? <laugh> CODE FOR: I've got nowhere to go here, so I'll deflect and say he's disrupting the discussion <doh>

Why don't you post the link to prove your claim that Remain supporters made that statement, as it doesn't fit with Remain at all sweet heart, only in your somewhat forgetful little head.
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Ho hum, tedious tobes being tedious tobes, desperately spinning for a way of ****ing up a discussion and trying to lay the blame elsewhere.

Before you came in wriggling, the conversation was about asylum and immigration. Any views?
 
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