The EU debate - Part III

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NowsufferinginSpain said:
What's happening to the U.K. Economy right now can be laid directly at the door of Brexit.

The rest of your claim is just nonsense!...
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Surely, based on many economic reports, that's good news right now? Most are suggesting there could be problems in the future, but global influences will certainly have an effect on them.
 
DMD said:
Surely, based on many economic reports, that's good news right now? Most are suggesting there could be problems in the future, but global influences will certainly have an effect on them.
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Bluster and bullshit.

Simple facts are Brexit has significantly damaged the UK economy and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

When the effects of what's slowly happening now start to hit the public in their pockets, then you'll hear some wailing!...
 
DMD said:
It's relevant because, I'm reasonably happy with things, but you're clearly not.

If I was as angry and unhappy as you, I would do a bit more than you are doing, which seems to be limited to trying to claim you're brighter than everyone else, but offering little evidence to support the claim.
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Doing a bit more of what? I'm powerless to do anything that'd undo or mitigate this **** up.

What annoys me about this survey is that most of the Leave vote still don't get that they've voted for fiscal pain.

It seems that it's going to still come as a shock to nearly half of them, and most of the remainder haven't grasped the likely scale of the pain that's coming.

What also ****s me off is that when the economy does start to contract, people like me will have to contract their businesses pro rata. That'll cost me lost income, but it won't 'hurt' me, as I'm nowhere near the breadline. However, it will hurt those who I have to let go, due to the inevitable cost reduction if things get tough. That's why I get annoyed about this entire subject, as those who'll suffer the most are those who glibly voted Leave on the basis of false promises and outright lies. This nonsense about voting against the establishment - when the supposed opposition to the establishment was landed gentry Tories like Rees Mogg boils my piss tbh. The working class have been royally mugged off with this debacle.
 
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NowsufferinginSpain said:
Bluster and bullshit.

Simple facts are Brexit has significantly damaged the UK economy and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

When the effects of what's slowly happening now start to hit the public in their pockets, then you'll hear some wailing!...
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That was your claim from the get go. You keep moving the time and readjusting the reasons, and I give no more of a **** now than I did then.

Your position is based purely on self interest.
 
Tobes said:
Doing a bit more of what? I'm powerless to do anything that'd undo or mitigate this **** up.

What annoys me about this survey is that most of the Leave vote still don't get that they've voted for fiscal pain.

It seems that it's going to still come as a shock to nearly half of them, and most of the remainder haven't grasped the likely scale of the pain that's coming.

What also ****s me off is that when the economy does start to contract, people like me will have to contract their businesses pro rata. That'll cost me lost income, but it won't 'hurt' me, as I'm nowhere near the breadline. However, it will hurt those who I have to let go, due to the inevitable cost reduction if things get tough. That's why I get annoyed about this entire subject, as those who'll suffer the most are those who glibly voted Leave on the basis of false promises and outright lies. This nonsense about voting against the establishment - when the supposed opposition to the establishment was landed gentry Tories like Rees Mogg boils my piss tbh. The working class have been royally mugged off with this debacle.
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So you're doing nothing then. Fair enough.
 
Tobes said:
Doing a bit more of what? I'm powerless to do anything that'd undo or mitigate this **** up.

What annoys me about this survey is that most of the Leave vote still don't get that they've voted for fiscal pain.

It seems that it's going to still come as a shock to nearly half of them, and most of the remainder haven't grasped the likely scale of the pain that's coming.

What also ****s me off is that when the economy does start to contract, people like me will have to contract their businesses pro rata. That'll cost me lost income, but it won't 'hurt' me, as I'm nowhere near the breadline. However, it will hurt those who I have to let go, due to the inevitable cost reduction if things get tough. That's why I get annoyed about this entire subject, as those who'll suffer the most are those who glibly voted Leave on the basis of false promises and outright lies. This nonsense about voting against the establishment - when the supposed opposition to the establishment was landed gentry Tories like Rees Mogg boils my piss tbh. The working class have been royally mugged off with this debacle.
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That's the big irony of this whole debacle. The Rees-Moggys of the world won't suffer. It's the poor and thick ****s who bought Nige's rhetoric about the NHS and immigration, who'll suffer when the **** really hits the fan.
 
DMD said:
So you're doing nothing then. Fair enough.
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And you have the temerity to moan about the debate going nowhere when you post nonsense like that, which offers nothing to the discussion?
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
That's the big irony of this whole debacle. The Rees-Moggys of the world won't suffer. It's the poor and thick ****s who bought Nige's rhetoric about the NHS and immigration, who'll suffer when the **** really hits the fan.
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Yep, and that's exactly what we were saying before the referendum.

It also will barely touch the blue rinse brigade, sat in their mortgage free property, drawing down their final salary pensions.

The sector it was always going to hurt was those in work on low and medium incomes, as their disposable income is already under pressure and there's little slack to absorb the pain.
 
DMD said:
That was your claim from the get go. You keep moving the time and readjusting the reasons, and I give no more of a **** now than I did then.

Your position is based purely on self interest.
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You're so full of **** I'd be amazed if your eyes aren't the darkest brown!

Yes, it's my claim, and it's also a fact. As was pointed out all to clearly by chancellor Hammond.
 
I got him to express an opinion the other day.

Still can't get Kustard to give an honest answer to the question though. I guess he's too ashamed.
 
Tobes said:
He posed that question merely to deflect away from the facts that were posted, as he had no comeback.

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It's an odd way to try and direct the conversation even for him. I'm not happy that we played like **** against a team that will almost certainly be relegated but I'm not planning to march to the training ground or tell the players what ****s they are on Twitter.
 
DMD said:
Can you ladies come up with something new? The nonsense in your recent posts is no more credible now than it was when you first bleated it.
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Laughable, coming from a blustering old bullshitter, like you!...

I truly have never encountered anybody who can say so much without actually saying anything!...
 
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