You said it was pain before gain but I'm not seeing much sign of gain. If I'd known Brexit would have given us this government and the way they've handled everything since the vote I wouldn't have voted for it.
The EU debate - Part III
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You said it was pain before gain but I'm not seeing much sign of gain. If I'd known Brexit would have given us this government and the way they've handled everything since the vote I wouldn't have voted for it.
We have not left yet, like we were promised, so it keeps everything up in the air. Still it keeps this thread going
More interesting to focus on the Autumn statement and the fact that Brexit is having and will continue to have a severe negative impact on the UK economy.
As predicted by the realists.
I'm sure the garage dwelling accountant will explain why an additional £122bn of debt is actually very positive news.
At the same time, Davis and Johnson are becoming figures of ridicule amongst their EU counterparts.
Brexit now looks like it will be a slow, drawn out process. A considered, gradual reform of the UK's relationship with the EU was always the most SENSIBLE approach. That's what will now happen but with the U.K. on the back foot instead of the driving seat.
So ultimately the "Remoaners" have been proven right. Probably reflected in the fact that the majority of the employed, the educated and the young voted Remain whilst the majority of the unemployed, the uneducated and the retired voted Leave.
As predicted by the realists.
I'm sure the garage dwelling accountant will explain why an additional £122bn of debt is actually very positive news.
At the same time, Davis and Johnson are becoming figures of ridicule amongst their EU counterparts.
Brexit now looks like it will be a slow, drawn out process. A considered, gradual reform of the UK's relationship with the EU was always the most SENSIBLE approach. That's what will now happen but with the U.K. on the back foot instead of the driving seat.
So ultimately the "Remoaners" have been proven right. Probably reflected in the fact that the majority of the employed, the educated and the young voted Remain whilst the majority of the unemployed, the uneducated and the retired voted Leave.
What difference would my view make to you posting your own opinion?
It's non-replies like that that bore people away.
Most people predicted an impact in the economy. It's hardly even news.
If anything,the impact so far has been less than most expected.
There are so many other factors that will affect the future,,such as China, Russia, Africa and the potential collapse of the EU, it's a bit narrow to focus on one event.
If anything,the impact so far has been less than most expected.
There are so many other factors that will affect the future,,such as China, Russia, Africa and the potential collapse of the EU, it's a bit narrow to focus on one event.
Even if it's just for the novelty value, I thought it'd be intetesting for one of them to actually post a view rather than just objecting.
Go on, have a go one of you.
In general, I don't disagree, but in practice on here, too many hide behind simply objecting to views, and avoid posting views of their own. That is also a two way street.
Check back, I did respond when someone finally made a somewhat limited comment. No doubt posting this will let some of the hook, and the wider issues will be missed, but someone posted their view on Le Penn's immigration policy, so I asked how it compared to the EU policy, that effectively discriminates against 90% of the world, and is protectionist in favour of EU industry.
I did post a comment on your reply, you were in the throws of comparing the EU border control policy with Le Penn's before you went to bed. Feel free to continue.
I guess in Custard defence he is saying (if I am reading this right) that we were already missing our borrowing targets and now the Government has given up on balancing the books by 2020. As a result of these missed targets (which cannot entirely be blamed on Brexit) and our now attempt to spend our way through Brexit (which is Brexit driven) the "black hole" is predicted to be in the region of £120bn, with Brexit contributing £58bn of it.
However, the keyword is likely, which means this number could rise (I personally don't see this, as the forecasts were deliberately on the low side) or be lower, if Brexit doesn't bite as hard.
I guess like all of the other recent comments, nobody really knows at this moment.
I did answer your question, I said I'm ignoring it for now. I'm interested in in exploring the reasons behind your opinion and how it relates to her actual policies.
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