The EU debate - Part III

You said it was pain before gain but I'm not seeing much sign of gain. If I'd known Brexit would have given us this government and the way they've handled everything since the vote I wouldn't have voted for it.

 

We have not left yet, like we were promised, so it keeps everything up in the air. Still it keeps this thread going

 

What is the reason for the other £63.3bn .

 

More interesting to focus on the Autumn statement and the fact that Brexit is having and will continue to have a severe negative impact on the UK economy.

As predicted by the realists.

I'm sure the garage dwelling accountant will explain why an additional £122bn of debt is actually very positive news.

At the same time, Davis and Johnson are becoming figures of ridicule amongst their EU counterparts.

Brexit now looks like it will be a slow, drawn out process. A considered, gradual reform of the UK's relationship with the EU was always the most SENSIBLE approach. That's what will now happen but with the U.K. on the back foot instead of the driving seat.

So ultimately the "Remoaners" have been proven right. Probably reflected in the fact that the majority of the employed, the educated and the young voted Remain whilst the majority of the unemployed, the uneducated and the retired voted Leave.

 

Ask the chancellor

 

You voted out so you should know as well. Please elaborate.

 

What difference would my view make to you posting your own opinion?

It's non-replies like that that bore people away.

 

To have a proper debate Hull, answering questions has to be a two way street.
I don't think it's unreasonable for the guy who instigated the post to answer first?

 

Most people predicted an impact in the economy. It's hardly even news.

If anything,the impact so far has been less than most expected.

There are so many other factors that will affect the future,,such as China, Russia, Africa and the potential collapse of the EU, it's a bit narrow to focus on one event.

 

Even if it's just for the novelty value, I thought it'd be intetesting for one of them to actually post a view rather than just objecting.

Go on, have a go one of you.

 

apart from the fact that it's been officially stated that the impact has been bigger than expected.

 

Le Pen is a fascist, racist **** and it would be a disaster in my opinion if she came to power.

What's your view of her and would you like to see her in power?

 

In general, I don't disagree, but in practice on here, too many hide behind simply objecting to views, and avoid posting views of their own. That is also a two way street.

Check back, I did respond when someone finally made a somewhat limited comment. No doubt posting this will let some of the hook, and the wider issues will be missed, but someone posted their view on Le Penn's immigration policy, so I asked how it compared to the EU policy, that effectively discriminates against 90% of the world, and is protectionist in favour of EU industry.

 

You said people on here club together to "bore alternative views away". How can they do that when you give no opinion whatsoever and just post clips? You aren't giving a view at all to be potentially bored away, as you put it.

Do you want Le Pen to win?

 

That isn't an opinion or an answer. It's yet another question you expect to be answered while you don't give any.

 

I did post a comment on your reply, you were in the throws of comparing the EU border control policy with Le Penn's before you went to bed. Feel free to continue.

 

As I have said many times, I'll answer your question when you answer mine. Having answered several of yours already, that's only fair.

I could add something along the lines of "you boring grey ****" but I won't. That wouldn't be helpful.

 

I guess in Custard defence he is saying (if I am reading this right) that we were already missing our borrowing targets and now the Government has given up on balancing the books by 2020. As a result of these missed targets (which cannot entirely be blamed on Brexit) and our now attempt to spend our way through Brexit (which is Brexit driven) the "black hole" is predicted to be in the region of £120bn, with Brexit contributing £58bn of it.
However, the keyword is likely, which means this number could rise (I personally don't see this, as the forecasts were deliberately on the low side) or be lower, if Brexit doesn't bite as hard.
I guess like all of the other recent comments, nobody really knows at this moment.

 

I did answer your question, I said I'm ignoring it for now. I'm interested in in exploring the reasons behind your opinion and how it relates to her actual policies.

 

And you only have to answer a very simple yes/no question to get them.