The EU debate - Part III

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Watford_R said:
There's a show on the rise and fall of Hitler on More4 at 9pm. The first half might appeal to some on here.
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I've watched the series, tonight is the last one. Very interesting and the timing of it being broadcasted couldn't be better.
 
Watford_R said:
It depends if you're bigoted enough to automatically equate ethnicity to culture.

If young hispanics in the US speak English, work, pay taxes and generally contribute to the country, what's the problem?
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No, this is just how things work in the real world. Mass immigration from any part of the world will ultimately change the culture of the host country. Different ethnicities simply provide the visual proof of it, anyone that says otherwise is a barefaced liar.

That wasn't what you were arguing, you were claiming that the mother tongue would be Spanish, now you've quickly jumped over to English to desperately try and backtrack and avoid answering my questions - again. And then you're trying to move to a typical sophist position of 'well it's good for the economy!'. Grow a set, I answer questions people ask me no matter how contentious, I just wish that some of you would try and match me, instead you all shout from afar about how racist I am for daring to come off the fence and challenge you, just know that it can't hold the weight of all of you forever.
 
Stan said:
Why does America have to be majority white? Because the whites stole the land from the Native Americans? Or because the whites imported slaves?
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Because it's their country and their identity, without it they're nothing, just another group assigned to the scrapheap of history because some bitter Democrats couldn't win the argument of ideas.

Not an argument.

Not an argument.
 
Archers Road said:
You would only argue that because you are a racist. Why else would you be concerned about what % of a population had what colour skin? Do you have figures for what % of the US population had blue, green, or brown eyes in 1965 compared to now? Who would give a ****? I suppose a genetecist or an anthropologist might be interested, for purposes of scientific research. Are you one of these?
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Of course, my concerns for a struggling race of people is racist... Where does this type of logic come from? What's with all the white guilt?
 
The Zlatan said:
No, this is just how things work in the real world. Mass immigration from any part of the world will ultimately change the culture of the host country. Different ethnicities simply provide the visual proof of it, anyone that says otherwise is a barefaced liar.

That wasn't what you were arguing, you were claiming that the mother tongue would be Spanish, now you've quickly jumped over to English to desperately try and backtrack and avoid answering my questions - again. And then you're trying to move to a typical sophist position of 'well it's good for the economy!'. Grow a set, I answer questions people ask me no matter how contentious, I just wish that some of you would try and match me, instead you all shout from afar about how racist I am for daring to come off the fence and challenge you, just know that it can't hold the weight of all of you forever.
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You do know people can be bilingual as the majority of Hispanics in the US are?

Rather than waffle about nothing, why not answer the question of why you have an issue with someone moving from, say, Mexico to the USA or being a second/third/fourth generation descendant of someone who did?

And I wasn't just talking about the economy. Ethnic minorities can bring more to a society than work.
 
The Zlatan said:
No, this is just how things work in the real world. Mass immigration from any part of the world will ultimately change the culture of the host country. Different ethnicities simply provide the visual proof of it, anyone that says otherwise is a barefaced liar.

That wasn't what you were arguing, you were claiming that the mother tongue would be Spanish, now you've quickly jumped over to English to desperately try and backtrack and avoid answering my questions - again. And then you're trying to move to a typical sophist position of 'well it's good for the economy!'. Grow a set, I answer questions people ask me no matter how contentious, I just wish that some of you would try and match me, instead you all shout from afar about how racist I am for daring to come off the fence and challenge you, just know that it can't hold the weight of all of you forever.
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Ok, I'll climb off your imaginary fence.

You're a racist piece of **** who views the world in terms of people's ethnicity and skin colour.

There are people with far darker skin than yours who are far more British. Many of them 4th or 5th generation. They were born in the Uk as were their parents, and their parents parents in some cases. Yet to you they're not British because they aren't white enough for you.

I, and most others here, find your views abhorrent. Why don't you **** off and peddle your warped, twisted view of the world to somebody who wants to listen?
 
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NowsufferinginSpain said:
Ok, I'll climb off your imaginary fence.

You're a racist piece of **** who views the world in terms of people's ethnicity and skin colour.

There are people with far darker skin than yours who are far more British. Many of them 4th or 5th generation. They were born in the Uk as were their parents, and their parents parents in some cases. Yet to you they're not British because they aren't white enough for you.

I, and most others here, find your views abhorrent. Why don't you **** off and peddle your warped, twisted view of the world to somebody who wants to listen?
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The Zlatan said:
Because it's their country and their identity, without it they're nothing, just another group assigned to the scrapheap of history because some bitter Democrats couldn't win the argument of ideas.

Not an argument.

Not an argument.
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It's not their country, they stole it from the Native Americans.
 
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