The EU debate - Part III

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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
To be fair, he worked miracles with their economy before deciding to push for a single European Union. Some people see the economy as the single important factor.
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I'm probably going to upset a few people again now, but this is where my policy of incentives for having children came from.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
You'd have been addressing the actual point in the first place, so get it back on track, are you saying that he didn't turn the economy round, and/or that the economy is a minor detail in running a Country?
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I didn't quote anyone in my initial post mentioning Hitler so what point was I supposed to be addressing? I made a comment that was the opinion of Stan.

I think part of the problem you have with other people's posts is that this thread has pretty much taken over your life and you see yourself as the conductor of it. The reality is that, judging by the responses you get, most people just see you as a sad old ****.
 
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NowsufferinginSpain said:
Absolute bollocks, that's all I can say to this...

Brexit has had a direct negative effect on the UK economy. That is a fact. It will continue to weigh negatively on the economy for the foreseeable future - a fact.

Of course the vote wasn't about the economy, I have never claimed that it was! People didn't vote to make themselves poorer, well not intentionally anyway. But the national economy is of massive importance to any country. All it's plans for growth and spending depend upon it. It's ridiculous to try and claim otherwise.
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You can keep stamping your feet and banging your wee drum, but it doesn't make it any more relevant, especially when you yourself have quoted from the article I posted that says " It is the first GDP figure covering a full quarter following the EU referendum, suggesting growth continues to be broadly unaffected following the EU referendum with a strong performance in the services industries offsetting falls in manufacturing and construction. "

Which conflicts with your claim.
 
Stan said:
I didn't quote anyone in my initial post mentioning Hitler so what point was I supposed to be addressing? I made a comment that was the opinion of Stan.

I think part of the problem you have with other people's posts is that this thread has pretty much taken over your life and you see yourself as the conductor of it. The reality is that, judging by the responses you get, most people just see you as a sad old ****.
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If you'd care to get back to the point rather than trying to personalise it, it'll help keep things on track. You seem very confused on the purpose of discussion forums.

It was my initial post to you on this I was referring to.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Are you denying he wanted one ruling regime for Europe?

As you brought it up though, the background of the first President of the EU and his team make interesting reading

http://www.eu-facts.org/en/background/dark_roots_europe_lecture.html
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Are you really comparing the Third Reich with the EU? Do you know how demented that sounds?

That's another top link that you've got there. Dr Matthias Rath is not a massive charlatan selling snake oil in any way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Rath
Literally killing people with his bullshit. You do love a con-man, don't you?
 
Stan said:
He may have wanted Germany to rule Europe but that's not reflective of the EU.

As the UK is about to find out, the EU isn't ruled by one country or party. Regions of Belgium can veto things like trade deals. I doubt Hitler, had he been successful, would have granted any similar power.

I'm pleased though that you've finally admitted your admiration for the man. You've been encouraged often enough to be honest and stop hiding behind waffle and hysterical cries of "you're deflecting".
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I haven't said I admire the man. <doh>

Have a look at the background to the EU and the stated aims of those driving it and their comments on a Federal Europe.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Are you really comparing the Third Reich with the EU? Do you know how demented that sounds?

That's another top link that you've got there. Dr Matthias Rath is not a massive charlatan selling snake oil in any way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Rath
Literally killing people with his bullshit. You do love a con-man, don't you?
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Nope, I'm not comparing those two, I'm simply pointing out the background and drivers of the organisation that you support. I'm the one that's wanted no part of it from the off.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
You can keep stamping your feet and banging your wee drum, but it doesn't make it any more relevant, especially when you yourself have quoted from the article I posted that says " It is the first GDP figure covering a full quarter following the EU referendum, suggesting growth continues to be broadly unaffected following the EU referendum with a strong performance in the services industries offsetting falls in manufacturing and construction. "

Which conflicts with your claim.
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Simple facts!!

First quarter growth 0.7%
Second quarter 0.5%
A decline!
Now, I'll leave you to try and spin those facts into whatever bullshit you can contrive!...
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
If you'd care to get back to the point rather than trying to personalise it, it'll help keep things on track. You seem very confused on the purpose of discussion forums.

It was my initial post to you on this I was referring to.
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There you go, the conductor wants to "keep things on track". Is that how you see the purpose of discussion forums?!

You're off your sad, old head fella. Did you actually do anything today apart from post essays on here?
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
Simple facts!!

First quarter growth 0.7%
Second quarter 0.5%
A decline!
Now, I'll leave you to try and spin those facts into whatever bullshit you can contrive!...
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I know, you got them from the link I posted, and where the other quotes came from. <doh>
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Nope, I'm not comparing those two, I'm simply pointing out the background and drivers of the organisation that you support. I'm the one that's wanted no part of it from the off.
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You're not pointing out anything.
You're relying on fruitcakes and demagogues for your information, as usual.
 
Stan said:
There you go, the conductor wants to "keep things on track". Is that how you see the purpose of discussion forums?!

You're off your sad, old head fella. Did you actually do anything today apart from post essays on here?
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You do realise that criticising me for wanting to keep it on track is confirmation of what I've been saying, and discredits you and your buddies. <doh>

Trying to personalise it simply shows you have no real argument.
 
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