The EU debate - Part III

How can you decide whether their view on what is best for the country correlates with yours unless you analyse their policies on the key issues?

That's the politics of alignment, which party represents what I stand for, based on nothing but historic core beliefs.

The British political system is bollocks, an outdated voting system that doesn't allow for fresh parties to be created and have a hope in hell of gaining a decent number of seats, due to the historic clustering of party loyalties.

A PR system would lead to more consensus Govt, which in my view would be a benefit, as we'd end up with less Govt intervention and less dramatic shifts in policy from one parliament to the next.

 

Bollocks.
Parties evolve mate.
They change their personnel and their values and stances differ greatly.
Look at Labour ffs.
Blair ran Labour for all those years, yet the current Labour leader, if he had his way, would brand Blair a war criminal and have him locked up.

Political parties are not static Pete

 

They are in Pete's World

The Tories are the party for Pete, he likes them, nearly as much as he likes chocolate digestives.

 

CETA is OVER: Belgian PM kills trade deal in devastating blow to EU

The EU could not organise a piss up in a pub

 

and to see if the claims they make for their policies are supported by the evidence.
An example: when I was young I think well over 50% of UK adults smoked tobacco. Its effect on health had been covered up and media coverage of it saw it as a freedom issue. But as research became clear it was obvious to almost everyone that it was a health issue and the public were seriously damaging themselves by smoking. The politicians rightly led the people through this danger by passing laws restricting smoking and advertising as they saw the issues more clearly. Loads omorepeople would have had early deaths if this had been a referendum issue.

 

It is even more evident in the two American political parties.
The Democrats, back in the 50's and 60's, were the racist party, and the Republicans were the reasonable ones.
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, and he freed the slaves.
Some time during the 60's on Nixon's watch I believe, there was a complete 180 and now the Democrats are the reasonable ones.

Look at Lincoln Vs Trump and tell me they are the same?

 

That's bullshit as parties evolve. Labour under Corbyn is different to Labour under Blair is different to Labour under Kinnock.

Basically what you're saying is you blindly vote Tory.

 

Too democratic to do so?

 

Doesn't bode well for our negotiations with them. There's no hostility towards Canada and yet they still couldn't agree a deal. Years of limbo await us.

 

Another Kustard classic

 

Why do you spell out what is in the link word for word. Is this some feeble attempt to convince us you know what you are talking about?

 

A great piece by the Fail this, as it spectacularly fails to figure out who's actually going to end up paying the £13BN import tariffs?

Oh yeah, that'll be the consumer i.e. us

Great news £13BN's worth of stealth taxation that'll cause inflation, I can't wait.....

Offsets some of the £20BN their about to gift corporations with the 10% reduction in CT I suppose....oh happy days - a real result for the working man

 

Totally disagree. Whilst you may have some underlying affinity to a particular set of political beliefs, these can change with age and maturity.

 

When I was a kid, I was ignorantly Right Wing, in terms of being socially conservative.( My family are all Tory voters).
Till I got a family and a house and a decent job, then you start to realise that politics isn't just a bunch of boring ****tards talking **** on TV and that the **** they is said and the **** that happens, actually matters.
I really got into politics through the Young Turks and other left wing media years ago, and was horribly ultra left wing, then slowly as I got older, more common sense has creeped in and I have settled somewhere slightly left of the centre.

 

Spell out? It's just cut and paste as some links don't work on all devices.

 

You think the Clinton's are reasonable?

He's a sexual predator that bombed a medical centre to detract media attention regarding one of his lies about affairs. She is stark bonkers.

 

May's first home nations summit went well then!..

And still no clear plan, apparently!..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...icola-sturgeon-against-undermining-brexit-as/

 

Ridiculous. You've absolutely no proof of such a ludicrous allegation!..

Trump is a mentally unstable megalomaniac. And a danger to the entire planet.

Whilst Clinton is nobody's first prize, given the choice America has left itself with, she can be the only choice!...

 

Sturgeon needs to keep deflecting attention from the failing of the Scottish Parliament. The EU won't take them and there's little appetite for a break in Scotland anyway.

 

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