The EU debate - Part III

I'll have some of that too, if necessary.

And the idiots who 'want their country back' can ****ing have it. Or what's left of it!...

 

£58.7BN wiped off our economy as a DIRECT RESULT OF BREXIT.

But of course there's been no effect whatsoever if you're a retired Bizzie in Hull.

What a stupid, clueless old ****

 

They can stew in their own piss for me as well. The U.K. Economy will be minus my substantial tax bill in about 3 years. I'm done with this **** hole.

 

I moved here 10 years ago, mate. Never regretted it, not for one minute.

I like to come back to the UK at times. Firstly to see my family, although they come over here too. Secondly, a few days in London is nice, if you can cop some decent weather.

But mostly I like to come back over there because it reminds me why I live over here!....

 

So basically rattled, resort to childish insults, well done Spain (and I have mentioned before to other posters, the insults won't work with me, because I don't care.....mr ****wit, . I think it was you that started throwing insults around). All your insults do, is show that any credible argument you may have, is lost in the childish retorts.

You quoted today that Italy's potential banking crisis won't have any effect as the economy hasn't grown.I pointed out that that's incorrect as both the US and UK economies have grow. After a hissy fit (to both Hull and I), I then went on to point out that the UK economy has outperformed both respected forecasters (such as the OBR) and will be the fastest growing economy, out of the G7 nations, in 2016. At no point have I mentioned week to week, month to month or quarter to quarter, I said year, as in 2016. Your continued comment about how the economy would be in better shape without Brexit, is pure speculation on your part. As I said most, economic forecasters were stating that some corrections to GBP were likely. That exact correction was not known and will never be now. For you to claim otherwise is just wishful thinking.

This was met by your normal, it's the "lag effect" when you have been proved incorrect. I'm fully aware of what lag means and it's effect (a very important term, along with lead, in the electrical engineering world). I don't need help with either research or reading thanks, and if I did, I'm not sure you would be able to help me.

I guess I do know a little about economics as I have successfully managed my financial affairs for the last xx years, so again a misconception on your part. I'm no expert as I mentioned on previous posts, but I do OK.
I don't prattle, I posts opinions and comments which sometimes put me at odds with both side of the arguments. I certainly don't need Hull to hold my hand and have critised his comments before.

If you can provide proof that the US and UK economies haven't grown, the U.K. will outperform its forecasts or that the U.K. wont be the fastest growing economy (out of the G7 nations), then I would appreciate it. As they say "knowledge is king".
You can carry on with your childish insults if you like, quite frankly it doesn't bother me. All it will show is a limited vocabulary, intelligence and the lack of expertise you claim to have.

 

Who mentioned Euro related bailouts, I didn't? Do you not think additional contributions cant be dressed up in a number of ways?

 

You like Sad Stan and Sad Horrible Irrelivant Tobes are the 3 stooges



You on the left, Stan in the middle and Tobes on the right

But then again they were funny you 3 are not

 

Re read the thread you hypocrite.

You piped up and told him to **** off without any need whatsoever, you then called him an idiot in your next post without him having a pop at you at all. That dumb **** Dull dishes out plenty and can fight his own battles, you piping up to rim him and be completely one sided in your criticism of abuse, whilst dishing out your own is ****ing ******ed

 

No.

Our contributions are fixed as a percentage of GDP, so you're talking bollocks,

 

Where have I said that Italy's possible banking crisis won't have any effect?? . I'll save you time, I haven't!..

Yes, the economy has out performed early forecasts. Economics is not an exact science, and never has been. However, the effects that have already hit the economy - mostly the drop in currency, will have the effect I stated. It really is just a matter of time before both manufacturers and retailers cannot or will not absorb additional costs, and pass them on to the consumer. Result? Inflation!.

What the UK economy does or does not do, viz a viz other economies is irrelevant.

The simple facts are, as was made clear by chancellor Hammond, are that Brexit has damaged the economy significantly. It will continue to damage the economy for the foreseeable future.

You started with the insults, pal, not me.

 

Here comes the cavalry
You do seem to have an overinflated option of your own worth, which tends to result in you dishing out insults.
I have never rimmed Hull or have any intention of doing so. I'm neither a hypocrite or ******, but thanks for caring.
Here's a thought, why don't you let Spain fight his own battles.

 

There you go again, only this time you're having a pop at me, you ****ing hypocrite

I'll respond - you're clueless

 

Again they are at the moment, but things can change if deemed acceptable by the member states. Who's to say that the UK government wouldn't agree to additional funding in the future?

 

Which bit is clueless, the over inflated opinion or the insults you throw around like confetti?
Im not the one boasting about my tax contribution or number of toilets, as if you are the only person who has ever held a £50 note or nor I am I the one who cannot construct a sentence without insulting a poster.

 

Why would we agree to paying additional funds to bail out the Eurozone after Cameron negotiated a deal that specifically excluded us from paying for any issues created by the Euro struggling?

That's absolute La La. You patently didn't understand what we're fiscally committed to, and when it's been pointed out you've had to create some Noddy scenario to justify your comments.

 

Number of toilets

You've been chucking round abuse since you appeared today, first at NSIS and then at me after I had the temerity to point out your hypocrisy. Your self awareness is on a par with Kustard love

 

What interested me was how we have got involved in the PIGS crisis. We used our higher credit rating to borrow at a lower rate than they could and then lent that money to them at a higher rate.

It narks fellow Europeans that we are prepared to profit from these situations.

 

You may have noticed, in between the insults, that Cameron is no longer the captain of the ship. As I have said, additional contributions can be dressed up as many things. Can you catergorically say that if we made additional contributions in the future (either as part of the EU if we had remained or as trade fees), that they would not work there way back to the central bank?

 

Correct.

The problem, for me, as I've said before, is not the EU. It's the Euro. It was a politically motivated, politically driven project, intended to promote further European integration.

Unfortunately, it's mostly an economic nonsense in its present form. It's unsustainable as it is and is causing major problems for many EU economies.

 

That's capitalism for you...

It's also nothing new. The first swaps, which were fixed/floating, were done on the grounds that one party could borrow fixed rate funds far cheaper than the other.