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The EU debate - Part II

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  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I have read some of David Ike's books. They are a classic example of what happens if you don't have a critical mind and blindly accept what somebody is saying.

    He starts with a premise that most people can accept: the banks rule the world, they are owned by a mega rich elite consisting of a few families (Rothschild, JP Morgan etc) Fine, nobody is disputing that. Once he has people listening, he will then extrapolate a slightly more contentious viewpoint, and then an even more incredulous one and on it goes. If you don't stop to check your thinking and critical analysis, he'll have you believing that the Queen is a shape shifting alien Lizard from another dimension.
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    It seems to have got ugly. But Doctors take the Hippocratic oath when they agree to practice and I don't think they would take this action unless it was a last resort.
     
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    Clearly, he got through to some people!..<laugh>
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    There's no accounting for what the gullible will swallow.
     
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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Aye, the mere sight of his web url seems to send some bobble hats into orgasm. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
    He was described as the "Greens' Tony Blair".
     
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    Nanu-Nanu. <laugh>
     
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    Oh look the standard vacuous response.

    You're embarrassing.
     
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    What
    What qualifications does Jeremy **** have to be in charge of the NHS anyway. As you say Piskie we already have a 7 day NHS for emergencies which is when we need it. Yes the NHS needs streamlining but can ill afford to lose any medical staff and his posturing is going to drive doctors away. If he wants a 7 day full NHS would many of us like to be told that our routine blood test will be at 3.30 am on a Sunday. I don't think so. There are few countries in the world that have a health service as good as that in the UK and that **** is dead set on privatising it and is picking fights with the doctors to hasten that. May had an opportunity to end the problem by replacing the Secretary of State with somebody competent who was willing to talk and discuss the way forward civilly with the doctors but she chose not to.
    They wouldn't be very keen to have a 7 day 24 hour parliament, but expect everybody else to.
     
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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Quite. Mork was a shape shifter wan't he. <doh>
    I'm sure my posts do embarrass you. You try to to turn everything into an argument, attempt to spin the discussion and generally fail, as you've done again here. <ok>
     
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    Typo and/or poor grammar alert!!...

    Wan't he = both!...
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Exactly this. We don't need a 7 day NHS for routine bloods, out patient appts etc on Sundays or at 3am on a Wednesday. We already have 24/7 emergency care and the doctors who provide that are ****ing amazing. ****'s proposals will extend Doctors hours because there are no more resources, as you say, his stance is driving people away from the profession, mainly to work abroad when taxpayers have spent thousands training them up to work here.

    I worked for the NHS for 16 years and I have seen the privatisation agenda close up. Since the Tories dismantled the primary care trusts, they have been pursuing a commissioning agenda which actively promotes private health companies to come in and 'cherry pick' the profitable services, that are easy to deliver and have good outcomes. This is turn leaves an ever underfunded (remember there is only one pot of dwindling money) to pick up the rest, with less money and less staff. This is all spun as 'Promoting patient choice' But basically the greedy ****s are selling it off to their rich chums to make a quick buck.
     
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    I've been busy this afternoon and I'm taking Stan Jr plus friend to play golf first thing tomorrow...so without having to trawl through pages of Dull Hull crap, has he confirmed that he is a follower of David Icke? It would explain a lot!
     
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    Have you seen the BBC's account of the strike? Implying that it's dangerous doctors pointlessly fighting against and inevitable and sensible contract offer that is damaging patients - the bias is so extreme in the BBC that it's reputation is in tatters!
     
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    Unfortunately, he's taken yet another kicking today and David has told him to **** off to bed, or he'll have his top lizard status taken away.
     
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    Nurse. His drug dose needs increasing. The deluded ramblings are getting worse, :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    So when did you start becoming an Icke believer? The guy that plastered and painted our hallway came from a Jehovah's Witness family (he's a non believer) and his story was interesting. Yours must be an Eldorado waiting to be scripted.

    Share.
     
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    I'm not defending Islam vehemently. What I'm doing is saying that your attack on the entirety of Islam due to the actions of a minute percentage of extremists, who are preaching a variant of Islam that most Muslims don't recognise, is a lazy racially motivated attack.

    You simply can't say that the entire Muslim culture is something that poses some form of threat to the West. You trying to justify that stance by using some meaningless stats about the number of Muslims in the armed forces, is truly pathetic and a complete red herring.

    You've clearly shown what you are here, it needs no further explanation.
     
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    Anyone who can take Icke seriously has got issues.

    the man is a complete barm pot
     
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    "Lighting" :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm

    That has to be one of the most inappropriate names on the boards.

    If you're interested, there are some posts of mine on here somewhere about David Icke. They'll show you I don't have too high an opinion of his theories to say the least.

    He's almost as mentally ill as you, Tobes and the suffering emigrant.
     
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    Looks like the Hull ****wit is up early this morning chaps.,..
     
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