The EU debate - Part II

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It's a tad more, and broader than that, and more than just the odd example.
My other half is on the National evaluation panel for EU funded projects in the UK, so save the patronising tone, as I can assure you, I know infinitely more about this subject than you.
 
Most people I know that voted remain were aware that much of what they were fed by both sides was either misleading or false. They worked out for themselves what was going to be the best decision,for themselves and for the country as a whole. The very few I know who voted leave fell for the £350 mill lie and the immigration lie.

Again, that says more about the company you keep. I don't know anyone that voted along that criteria.
 
My other half is on the National evaluation panel for EU funded projects in the UK, so save the patronising tone, as I can assure you, I know infinitely more about this subject than you.


The ones I was talking about know a damn site more and over a broader range. <ok>
 
So I'm supposed to provide evidence that people feel that they've been lied to without using those people?
How would you like me to do that, exactly? I can give examples of articles written by some of them, but that's not very broad, is it?

I'd like you to select specific claims from the Remain campaign that you feel were lies, please.
You've posted a lot of stuff, including Icke memes and I wouldn't want to misrepresent your opinions.
You'd accuse me of shooting the messenger or dismissing your concerns or something.

You made the claim, the onus is on you to prove it. <ok>
 
You made the claim, the onus is on you to prove it. <ok>
You've restricted what you'll accept as proof, so I'm asking for clarification.
How can I provide proof of a large group of people feeling duped, without using a study of a wide group of people?
That seems to be impossible, doesn't it?

We all know that the entire Leave campaign was a load of crap, but you seem to think that nobody was influenced by it.
That begs the question of why they bothered to run it, then.
 
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My other half is on the National evaluation panel for EU funded projects in the UK, so save the patronising tone, as I can assure you, I know infinitely more about this subject than you.
The ones I was talking about know a damn site more and over a broader range. <ok>
You don't have clue about what Mrs Tobes knows. You only think you do.
 
The ones I was talking about know a damn site more and over a broader range. <ok>
<laugh>

You seriously haven't got a clue. How do you think you end up being asked to be part of the National evaluation panel? Wouldn't be experience over many years of the EU funding mechanism would it?

Some no mark council bod like you thinking you know more about this specific issue is truly hilarious.
 
You've restricted what you'll accept as proof, so I'm asking for clarification.
How can I provide proof of a large group of people feeling duped, without using a study of a wide group of people?
That seems to be impossible, doesn't it?

We all know that the entire Leave campaign was a load of crap, but you seem to think that nobody was influenced by it.
That begs the question of why they bothered to run it, then.

You formed the opinion, it must have been on something. If you're saying you base it one some opnion poll or other, and a couple of your mates, it's hardly a substantial claim. You dismiss other opinions based on personal experience, so you need something else to support your claim.

It's your claim to give proof on how you come by it.
 
You formed the opinion, it must have been on something. If you're saying you base it one some opnion poll or other, and a couple of your mates, it's hardly a substantial claim. You dismiss other opinions based on personal experience, so you need something else to support your claim.

It's your claim to give proof on how you come by it.
It's actually your claim. You said that people weren't influenced by the lies.
Back that up, please.
 
<laugh>

You seriously haven't got a clue. How do you think you end up being asked to be part of the National evaluation panel? Wouldn't be experience over many years of the EU funding mechanism would it?

Some no mark council bod like you thinking you know more about this specific issue is truly hilarious.

The people I'm talking of are certainly higher than that, and cover broader areas. Your wife may know her subject, but to assume others don't know theirs is patently ridiculous and arrogant.
 
It's actually your claim. You said that people weren't influenced by the lies.
Back that up, please.

Nobody I know was influenced by the lies.

You said those that voted remain did so because they were duped. Your proof needed. <ok>
 
The people I'm talking of are certainly higher than that, and cover broader areas. Your wife may know her subject, but to assume others don't know theirs is patently ridiculous and arrogant.
What's higher than that? <laugh>

She represents the entirety of her profession for the UK, and the panel is held in Westminster you absolute dolt <rofl>

Please explain exactly how your 'people' trump that. In your own time....
 
You don't have clue about what Mrs Tobes knows. You only think you do.

I know enough from what he's posted, to know that the people I'm talking about know more about their subject than she does. The EU grants may well work as he says in her field, but they don't in others. <ok>
 
What's higher than that? <laugh>

She represents the entirety of her profession for the UK, and the panel is held in Westminster you absolute dolt <rofl>

Other professions and areas, you dolt. :emoticon-0105-wink:

Hers working that way, doesn't mean they all do.
 
Nobody I know was influenced by the lies.

You said those that voted remain did so because they were duped. Your proof needed. <ok>
Nice attempt to shift the burden of proof. You made a claim. Back it up.
You also have no way of proving that anyone that you know was or wasn't influenced by the lies, even yourself.

I didn't say anything about those that voted remain, either. No idea where you got that from.
 
Nice attempt to shift the burden of proof. You made a claim. Back it up.
You also have no way of proving that anyone that you know was or wasn't influenced by the lies, even yourself.

I didn't say anything about those that voted remain, either. No idea where you got that from.

Piss poor attempt at shifting the burden of proof. You made the claim, now back it up. <ok>
 
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