The EU debate - Part II

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I can see your argument, and accept it to a point. Keeping Brady alive against his wishes as a way of tormenting him, doesn't seem to be about justice to me, but I don't honestly have a problem with it.

Fruitcakes and psychopaths are not wired like the rest of us or from what I can tell, like each other. I'very seen a few documentaries where they're interviewed, and the shrinks reckon there's not a lot to be learned from them. Their methods and MO's seemed to be ore revealing as far as investigating new cases. The programmes I saw seemed to say the killer wasn't needed for that. They seemed to just accept prison, where they get a degree of 'respect' from fellow loons.
They're never going to be cured or released, so why let them steal oxygen?
They don't want respect from their fellow lunatics, who they often hate and don't want to be associated with.
Most of them seem to think that they're different and special. Brady calls them maggots, apparently.

Some psychiatrists might not think that we can learn from them, but medical science can.
Brain scans have shown us some useful things about how our minds are different, for example.

It seems unlikely that any of them will be successfully rehabilitated, I'd agree.
Going down the same path that they've trodden seems like a very poor way to run a society, though.
We should be better than them, not replicate their bad behaviour.
 
I agree, but they will pay some tax, better than it going to another country and possible more UK jobs?
Race to the bottom and trickle-down economics? No thanks.
The only way to stop this **** is to present a united front with other major countries and introduce appropriate laws.
These companies have already shown that they'll never be happy with what they're asked to pay, no matter how little.
 
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They don't want respect from their fellow lunatics, who they often hate and don't want to be associated with.
Most of them seem to think that they're different and special. Brady calls them maggots, apparently.

Some psychiatrists might not think that we can learn from them, but medical science can.
Brain scans have shown us some useful things about how our minds are different, for example.

It seems unlikely that any of them will be successfully rehabilitated, I'd agree.
Going down the same path that they've trodden seems like a very poor way to run a society, though.
We should be better than them, not replicate their bad behaviour.

But if it's a question of not replicating bad behaviour, what should we do with hostage takers and kidnappers? We can't lock them up if replicating bad behaviour's an issue. We couldn't fine thieves either.
 
Race to the bottom and trickle-down economics? No thanks.
The only way to stop this **** is to present a united front with other major countries and introduce appropriate laws.
These companies have already shown that they'll never be happy with what they're asked to pay, no matter how little.
The countries may talk about a united front regarding tax rules but they still compete with each other regarding tax rates.
 
But if it's a question of not replicating bad behaviour, what should we do with hostage takers and kidnappers? We can't lock them up if replicating bad behaviour's an issue. We couldn't fine thieves either.
Fining isn't stealing. It's a reversible punishment.
People who take hostages or kidnap people are putting others in places that they're not supposed to be.
We're putting them in jail, which is exactly where they belong.
The countries may talk about a united front regarding tax rules but they still compete with each other regarding tax rates.
Yep. That needs to change. Multinationals have forced our hand, unfortunately.
 
Remainers still want to stay in?

Guy Verhofstadt’s six-point plan for an EU superstate:

1. Create an EU Government and President
2. Set up a Brussels FBI
3. Create a European Army
4. Set up a central Brussels Treasury
5. Complete the single market for digital services
6. End opt-outs for Schengen and the Euro
 
I agree, but they will pay some tax, better than it going to another country and possible more UK jobs?

There was an interview with the chair of the London cabbies, who was talking about the billion pound plus company Uber, or whatever they're called. He made a few allegations, so the interviewer put them to the uber boss.

One claim was that as a company, uber pay less tax than 3 average black cab drivers. Uber couldn't deny it.
 
There was an interview with the chair of the London cabbies, who was talking about the billion pound plus company Uber, or whatever they're called. He made a few allegations, so the interviewer put them to the uber boss.

One claim was that as a company, uber pay less tax than 3 average black cab drivers. Uber couldn't deny it.
I thought Uber was losing money so I wouldn't expect them to pay tax.
 
There was an interview with the chair of the London cabbies, who was talking about the billion pound plus company Uber, or whatever they're called. He made a few allegations, so the interviewer put them to the uber boss.

One claim was that as a company, uber pay less tax than 3 average black cab drivers. Uber couldn't deny it.
Uber is an utter rip-off and they don't pay any tax at all. They make massive losses everywhere, at the moment.
Black cab drivers are tax-dodging ****ers too, though.

Studies of Uber in various places have shown that it basically doesn't pay anything, once you've accounted for all costs.
They claim that they don't employ any drivers, so employment laws don't apply to them.
All of their cabbies are effectively self-employed, while they await self-driving cars to replace them all.
They'll probably try to argue that those are self-employed too, the ****ers.
 
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Remainers still want to stay in?

Guy Verhofstadt’s six-point plan for an EU superstate:

1. Create an EU Government and President
2. Set up a Brussels FBI
3. Create a European Army
4. Set up a central Brussels Treasury
5. Complete the single market for digital services
6. End opt-outs for Schengen and the Euro

Do I really care what the leader of a party with less than 10% of the EU seats thinks?
It's not like he is going to make it happen.
 
there's many ways you could be inadequate. If you were happy with your life you wouldn't display so much hate.
I have no idea why you want to discuss this with me.

You took it upon yourself to peel the layers.

Hate? <laugh>

Your such a fat pussy sometimes.
 
Remainers still want to stay in?

Guy Verhofstadt’s six-point plan for an EU superstate:

1. Create an EU Government and President
2. Set up a Brussels FBI
3. Create a European Army
4. Set up a central Brussels Treasury
5. Complete the single market for digital services
6. End opt-outs for Schengen and the Euro

Key word there mate...it's a 'plan'.

And it's dead in the water, as Ireland is a neutral state and the people won't ratify it (esp part 3), as they have done on a number of EU treaty's they were not happy with (Nice, Lisbon). Not sure about most EU states, but ANY changes to the Irish constitution must be ratified by popular vote, rather than the current elected government pushing it through.
 
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She's a ****ing idiot. I have no idea how she's an MP, frankly.
I often disagree with people's political opinions, yet I'm able to appreciate their point of view and listen to their arguments.
She simply doesn't have any. States her case, gets torn down, then repeats herself. Utter moron.

Sounds like she might come from Hull! <whistle>
 
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