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Those who stand up to our conquest of the world by Jihad will be second in line for extermination, behind only the Jews who our beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) commanded to wipe out
 
Admiral Pure said:
The right to say what you want has to be balanced by the effect of what you say. The rights of others to live free of intimidation, hatred and threats, even if only verbal, is just as much a human right as the right to free speech. When the two come into conflict and where you draw the line is the tricky part. Regardless, sometimes the absolute right to say what you want is of lesser importance.

I'm talking in an entirely general sense here, btw, not particularly about the EDL.
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I don't believe in human rights, I believe in human realities. And a human reality is that we're all born capable of saying whatever the hell we want and no other man has any legitimate reason to shut us up unless we ask him to; to do otherwise requires violence. Sorry if that's too abstract, that's just the way I feel.
 
Donald F*ck said:
I don't believe in human rights, I believe in human realities. And a human reality is that we're all born capable of saying whatever the hell we want and no other man has any legitimate reason to shut us up unless we ask him to; to do otherwise requires violence. Sorry if that's too abstract, that's just the way I feel.
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It may be the way you feel but the law dictates otherwise. If your words incite violence or provoke harm to a particular group of people there can be no justification for such statements. We are no more allowed to say whatever we want than we are allowed to act the way we want.

If you are acting in such a way the police have every right to arrest you without the need of violence.

Freedom of Speech is to be cherished but it is not a charter for abuse.
 
Edward T Butterbuttocks said:
It may be the way you feel but the law dictates otherwise. If your words incite violence or provoke harm to a particular group of people there can be no justification for such statements. We are no more allowed to say whatever we want than we are allowed to act the way we want.

If you are acting in such a way the police have every right to arrest you without the need of violence.

Freedom of Speech is to be cherished but it is not a charter for abuse.
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The current law does not have any place in my worldview. <ok>
 
Donald F*ck said:
I don't believe in human rights, I believe in human realities. And a human reality is that we're all born capable of saying whatever the hell we want and no other man has any legitimate reason to shut us up unless we ask him to; to do otherwise requires violence. Sorry if that's too abstract, that's just the way I feel.
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It's not abstract, it's complete bollocks. <ok>
 
Halal meat should be banned. Not for what or why but because it tastes ****ing disgusting!

Anyone who calls EDL racist in principle is wrong, but you can call a major part of their supporters racist.

I have as much of a problem with those against facism lot and far more issue with anyone who really does incite murder and hatred in the name of God.

And I ****ing HATE liberal, leftie socialist wannabe human rights supporter clueless ****s!
 
Donald F*ck said:
Well obviously, Stereo man.



Explain how then.
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You 'don't believe in human rights'. <laugh> Seriously, you 'don't believe in human rights'? <doh>

Either you believe in totalitarianism/authoritarianism or you do actually believe in human rights. The fact that you say you believe that 'noone has any legitimate reason to shut us up' rather contradicts your so-called lack of a belief in human rights (in this instance the right to speak freely). Which ever, your statement is complete bollocks.

If you believe in 'human realities', then the 'reality' is we live in a country in which the law attempts to balance the right to freedom of speech with the right to live free of intimidation. Whether or not the law is implemented fairly is of course a matter of debate. Regardless of your views of the rights and wrongs of the law, it is not 'human reality' to expect to be able to say anything free of any consequences and it never has been. To think otherwise is almost ridiculously naive.
 
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