1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

The Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,489
    Likes Received:
    32,224
    We’ll never know but fact is he didn’t buy in until Cellino had sorted the mess. Everything else is guesswork imo
     
    #101
    xbpod likes this.
  2. Marcos Barber

    Marcos Barber Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Messages:
    6,905
    Likes Received:
    11,011
    I keep hearing that Cellino sorted out the mess. Did I miss something? Were GFH gone from our lives? No. Did we own Elland Road? No. We're we debt free? No. Did we have an owner that had been and was about to be banned again? Yes. Did we have multiple court cases during his tenure? Yes.

    To be fair, I am beyond caring really he is gone but I think I will save my praise for someone who really has made a difference thanks :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #102
    davy, Jammy 07, Leedsoflondon and 3 others like this.
  3. w.c.dukenfieldesq

    w.c.dukenfieldesq Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Messages:
    1,121
    Likes Received:
    1,387
    Chippy sorry to hear you have been in hospital. I have seen odd comments about your health but thought it was banter. I was away early to mid august so must have missed the story. Good luck, good health and best wishes.
     
    #103
    Chippy / Glory likes this.
  4. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,489
    Likes Received:
    32,224
    Instead of dozens of offshore companies owning Leeds before he came in, which nobody was interested in getting involved in, Cellino tenure tidied up that mess and eliminated a lot of waste at the time. Like you Marcos, all irrelevant now thankfully and we can nearly all look forward to a great future <ok>
     
    #104
  5. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    20,009
    Likes Received:
    27,639
    I remember being called a bore on BBC606, then JA because of my hate for Bates & the digging into his companies, his accounts, his conspirators, his offshore shell companies, his raiding of our money, his administrations....... Massive amount to clean up after him and then GFH made it worse. Cellino will not really get any credit for doing his bit but maybe as time goes on and Radz gives more detail it may come out. Radz in fairness actually said that Cellino had worked his backside off behind the scenes getting the club ready.... I may be totally wrong but struggle to see how Radz was able to do things so fast without help
     
    #105
    Whitejock, xbpod, FORZA LEEDS and 6 others like this.
  6. lifecheshirewhite

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    31,012
    Likes Received:
    20,977
    Cellino stopped the rot,moved forward a little football wise under him,wasn't great but a lot better than previous few owners.<ok>
     
    #106
    Whitejock, FORZA LEEDS, OLOF and 3 others like this.
  7. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,489
    Likes Received:
    32,224
    Spot on Doc. Think that’s it in a nutshell <ok>
     
    #107
  8. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2011
    Messages:
    12,028
    Likes Received:
    8,699
    Cellini had so many bad points I can see maybe it's hard to give him credit for things. I really don't know what he did on the positive side but suspect Rad could have done the same with less of the negatives

    Anyway it is water under the bridge, current ownership is moving us forwards I believe
     
    #108
  9. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    2,951

    Deadline day has come and gone, we have some great signings with a couple yet to make their mark, but all up, we're a better and stronger team than last season.

    Adding to the above, we aren't a one trick pony team any more, and while some articles were saying TC would build on what Monk created, I don't see that, TC and Radz have done it there way and created a more attacking team than last season, I think the goals scored, and the way we scored them attests to that, not to mention the players brought in who scored'em. We don't watch boring, flat and mediocre football anymore, we watch top notch exciting football which has all Leeds fans talking and having orgasms.

    While some still don't like Cellino, and refuse to give him credit for what he achieved, he is the reason we are where we are at the moment. Cellino was the stepping stone that now has Leeds standing on solid ground, he bought the club when we were seriously under threat of going under again, thanks to GFH.

    Cellino sorted out a lot of the mess left behind by GFH and Bates, he paid players wages when GFH refused too, he got rid of a lot of debt, and staved of GFH by doing a deal, in other words, Cellino recognised what arseholes GFH were and held'em at bay, then bought their shares to own 100% of Leeds United. Some say GFH were in control, but I reckon Cellino knew what he was doing. He refloated our club and team.

    It's easy to attack the negatives and turn a blind eye to the positives, especially when the negatives fuel a person's personal agenda.

    Rads owns ER, not Leeds United, difference between Radz and Adler is, Radz ain't charging any rent to LUFC.

    Cellino stabilized our club, Radz is building on it and taking our club to the next level, this season looks very very promising for promotion, either through the top 2 or via the playoffs, and we've only played 5 league games.

    While many were saying we shouldn't sell Wood, it was the best bit of business Radz did for LUFC, the team and football wise. Wood leaving was the best thing to happen to Leeds United. We have better players, better goal scorers, play much better football, the fans are loving it, and we're scoring multiple goals, with the exception of the two 0-0 draws. We've beaten teams that many said were hard to beat, and we just didn't beat'em, we pretty much controlled the games.

    4 games in and fans were already saying, Wood who? Wood who? who the feck is Wood?

    We are, at the moment playing our football with flair, confidence and audacity, the combination makes it exciting to watch, and, we're playing for 90 mins plus.

    Are we in a better position than Villa or Boro, or any of the other bigger teams in Championship, only time and a successfull season will be able to answer that, but, as far as Boro are concerned, I reckon we're way in front of what Monk created.

    Leeds United this season are a team going places, and it's always in the direction of up.

    I'm so excited,
    I just can't hide it,
    we're going to score lots of goals
    and I think I like it.......:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #109
    Eireleeds1 likes this.
  10. Marcos Barber

    Marcos Barber Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Messages:
    6,905
    Likes Received:
    11,011
    Only agenda I have is wanting a professionally run successful Leeds United and you are, of course, quite wrong. Cellino is not the reason we are where we are now. Stepping stone maybe but Rads is the reason we are where we are now not Cellino.
     
    #110
    Farsleyexile and Leedsoflondon like this.

  11. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    2,951
    You obviously don't get, it do you.
     
    #111
  12. Marcos Barber

    Marcos Barber Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Messages:
    6,905
    Likes Received:
    11,011
    If you mean I have a different opinion to you then you are correct.

    Let me ask you a question, who was the owner when we had your hated Monk as manager and the useless Wood up front with us playing the one dimensional flat footed football you go on about? Now another, who was the owner that oversaw the fantastic transfer window you also talk about, let Monk and Wood go and appointed a new manager that got us playing the football that has you so excited?

    Answer both honestly and see if you can work out who is responsible for where we are now.

    That is without needing to discuss who brought the ground and stopped charging us rent, who has never dragged Leeds United through the courts, who actually paid off GFH rather than created debentures against our club and had a boardroom full of ill equipped individuals, withdrew funding from our academy and sacked loads of long serving staff etc.

    I acknowledged maybe Coco was a stepping stone I just disputed the fact that he was the reason we are where we are now.

    You are also correct that one of us just doesn't get it.
     
    #112
    Whitejock, Farsleyexile, davy and 2 others like this.
  13. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2011
    Messages:
    12,028
    Likes Received:
    8,699
    In this case ignore-ance is bliss
     
    #113
  14. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,628
    Likes Received:
    21,951
    That explains your constant attacks on Chris Wood

    Even when the guy scored "it was accidental and he meant to miss" <doh>
     
    #114
  15. Marcos Barber

    Marcos Barber Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Messages:
    6,905
    Likes Received:
    11,011
    Depends who that is aimed at?
     
    #115
  16. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,628
    Likes Received:
    21,951
    I assumed it was aimed at LL
     
    #116
  17. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2011
    Messages:
    12,028
    Likes Received:
    8,699
    <whistle>
     
    #117
  18. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2012
    Messages:
    47,417
    Likes Received:
    12,662
    Feeling a bit better and have found a flat at Watergate Bay just north of Newquay.
    A few walks on the beach to blow away the cobwebs are in order.
     
    #118
    Marcos Barber and bucks_is_leeds like this.
  19. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    18,040
    Likes Received:
    21,103
    Agree with all that. Not to mention that Cellino's eccentricities stopped the moment Radz got involved and effectively had a gagging order on him as negotiations took place. And quite right that Cellino certainly did not 'rid' us of GFH, they had sway over practically all his business decisions. Effectively all he did was restructure the debt. <ok>
     
    #119
    Marcos Barber likes this.
  20. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,489
    Likes Received:
    32,224
    We will never know but every chance Rad wouldn’t have bothered with the Pre Cellino Leeds. He didn’t anyway so without Cellino a fair chance we never would have rad and that would have been some miss
     
    #120
    OLOF and LeedsLover like this.

Share This Page