The Book Thread

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Game of Thrones is going the same way as that Wheel of Time (Robert Jordan) - no end in sight and insufferably boring in the end. Game of Thrones is only good for four books - book five was absurd and Dance with Dragons is worse; why we need another 50 new characters is beyond me.

Best books I have read are The Dark Tower (Stephen King, series of 7 books), Neverwhere, Anansi Boys and American Gods (Neil Gaiman). I'd recommend anything by Gaiman, even the graphic novels - Sandman is one of the most revered of all time.
 
Not me! I specialised in the Wars of the Roses at uni, did my dissertation on it. Not really found any decent fiction I could get into (the obsession with factual accuracy having been drilled into me since A-Level) however.

I can't say whether Philippa Gregory is factually accurate or not; others I've spoken to have said they don't like her books for that reason, so perhaps not!

Did you see the programme about the finding of Richard III's skeleton under a car park? I thought that was really interesting even if the lady in it was a bit too emotionally involved! I loved the bit when they drapped the flag over the cardboard box with his remains in it, all regal and majestic as they carried him to .... a van, where they then plonked him in the footwell! I was waiting for someone to go 'oh, hang on, wait, hold it ... his skull's just rolled under the passenger seat!'

But joking aside, how amazing to have found his skeleton and for so many of the 'stories' that have passed down through history to be shown to be true. Although I don't think there will ever be a definitive answer as to whether he murdered the princes in the tower. Now there's a story there must be some good fiction about (although not necessarily factually accurate!)!
 
Game of Thrones is going the same way as that Wheel of Time (Robert Jordan) - no end in sight and insufferably boring in the end. Game of Thrones is only good for four books - book five was absurd and Dance with Dragons is worse; why we need another 50 new characters is beyond me.

Best books I have read are The Dark Tower (Stephen King, series of 7 books), Neverwhere, Anansi Boys and American Gods (Neil Gaiman). I'd recommend anything by Gaiman, even the graphic novels - Sandman is one of the most revered of all time.


The 14th and final book of the Wheel of Time series has just been released (A Memory of Light). The series did get seriously boring at one point but if you can wade through, the last 4 or 5 books have been epic and awesome. Well worth reading the series. Looks impressive on the bookcase too!
 
The Uhtred of Bebbanburg series by Bernard Cornwell is amazing - set during the Viking invasions of Saxon Britain. In my opinion some of the best stuff that Cornwell has written.
 
Did you see the programme about the finding of Richard III's skeleton under a car park? I thought that was really interesting even if the lady in it was a bit too emotionally involved! I loved the bit when they drapped the flag over the cardboard box with his remains in it, all regal and majestic as they carried him to .... a van, where they then plonked him in the footwell! I was waiting for someone to go 'oh, hang on, wait, hold it ... his skull's just rolled under the passenger seat!'

But joking aside, how amazing to have found his skeleton and for so many of the 'stories' that have passed down through history to be shown to be true. Although I don't think there will ever be a definitive answer as to whether he murdered the princes in the tower. Now there's a story there must be some good fiction about (although not necessarily factually accurate!)!

I did, was a very good watch. Completely agree with you about the lady in it, the crush she had on Richard was a bit.. well... creepy. I understand the study of him was her life's work, but I spent the whole programme wanting her to get a grip!

But yea, most significant find in the field, for, well, ever I suppose. I went to Bosworth the week after the discovery and everyone was buzzing about it. I don't think he personally murdered them, but almost certainly had them killed- there's a really good programme on 4od actually, about Perkin Warbeck, you should give it a watch!
 
Spotted 'The Mask of Troy' by David Gibbins in the library the other day. Remembered it had been recommended on here so decided to give it a go. It's excellent thus far. I loudly second the recommendation. It's also making me want to get back into archaeology which can only be good!
 
I'm not one for books, I lose interest to easily. I do however find it easier to get into eBooks at the moment...

My mother keeps trying to get me to read 'Deception point' by Dan Brown - anyone read that?
 
I'm not one for books, I lose interest to easily. I do however find it easier to get into eBooks at the moment...

My mother keeps trying to get me to read 'Deception point' by Dan Brown - anyone read that?

Read it. 5 out of 10 though.
 
The 14th and final book of the Wheel of Time series has just been released (A Memory of Light). The series did get seriously boring at one point but if you can wade through, the last 4 or 5 books have been epic and awesome. Well worth reading the series. Looks impressive on the bookcase too!

The Wheel of Time is going to be the death of me. I started book one in 2006 and started working my way through. Something always happens that I end up having a break from reading though and then I feel like I need to start again. I don't know how often I've read book one but the furthest I've got is book eight I think. Its all Cos I do everything in phases - thats why I disappear from here and come back. Its not a good way of working through a 14 book series sadly :(
 
I'm not one for books, I lose interest to easily. I do however find it easier to get into eBooks at the moment...

My mother keeps trying to get me to read 'Deception point' by Dan Brown - anyone read that?

Not wanting to potentially get you into trouble with you mother if you say you don't want to read it, but Mr M's copy of 'Deception Point' got buried under a compost heap in Luton.

He said it was something to do with the ridiculousness of one of the male characters coming out of a cupboard wearing silk pyjamas <yikes>
 
Not wanting to potentially get you into trouble with you mother if you say you don't want to read it, but Mr M's copy of 'Deception Point' got buried under a compost heap in Luton.

He said it was something to do with the ridiculousness of one of the male characters coming out of a cupboard wearing silk pyjamas <yikes>
Agent Bruce? <yikes>
 
Great thread this ACS, I've normally got two books on the go, one upstairs and one down! My current upstairs one is "The Casual Vacancy", J.K.Rowlings attempt at adult literature, I'm sorry to say I'm finding it hard going, that surprises me because I thoroughly enjoyed all the Harry Potters!

I love Jonathan Kellerman's "Alex Delaware" books, and absolutely ANYTHING by Dean Koontz!

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Not wanting to potentially get you into trouble with you mother if you say you don't want to read it, but Mr M's copy of 'Deception Point' got buried under a compost heap in Luton.

He said it was something to do with the ridiculousness of one of the male characters coming out of a cupboard wearing silk pyjamas <yikes>

Luton's one claim to fame?
 
Not a fiction man, I have to say. That's why I got bored of my Archaeology and Ancient History degree pretty quickly, because everything ever written about these subjects is made up bullshit. I wish I could enjoy novels, but I just find it difficult to care about ficticious people because I'm a boring bastard. Ordinary individuals I can relate to are a different matter, though. One of my favourite autobiographies is Penguins Stopped Play: 11 Village Cricketers Take on the World. Well written, funny, interesting and emotional.

Overall, though, I much prefer philosophical liberation or understanding the latest Science buzzwords, so Hawking's A Brief History of Time etc and psychological explorations are more my scene. I am currently reading Thinking Fast and Slow by D.Kahneman. I've only scanned the first 25 or so pages on the bus this evening, but it's seemingly intellectually stimulating to sufficient degree to ignore DT's attempted conversations, so it's got potential. Basically it is about decision making processes, understanding our inherent biases and recognizing the brain's substitution of "expert" solutions (brought about by practice or genius in a specific field, producing a correct answer quickly) for "heuristic" solutions (whereby we are unable to decipher meaning from a question or challenge, and thus re-route the thought to another question or challenge which is easier and seemingly related, but not necessarily relevant to the original problem). These two principles essentially form "system 1", whereby you make a quick value judgement through either method (hence fast in the title). The more complex System 2 of breaking down the problem into logical components and evaluating the best possible answer requires more effort, is slower but inherently more rational. Human beings overestimate their rational logic, without understanding the processes which culminate their ultimate decisions, and without factoring in things like "luck".

Now, that is probably of very little interest to any but the perverted, but books like that and contemplation on these matters can be useful in understanding many things, like why a certain footballer or manager is successful.
Read it last week. He talks ****e.
 
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