The bigger plan

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That's almost like saying it's their club they can do what they want. It is and they can but I don't have to keep quiet about it and just suck it all up.
That’s not at all what I’m saying
More it seems some justify why they aren’t going as they’re in a personal war with the allams when the allams don’t give a **** about you
 
They hadn't fallen out with the owners when we played Chelsea this season had they ?
The owners are obviously keeping some away but the main reason for the low attendances is our league position.
If we somehow hit a winning combination in League 1 the gates will be higher then they were to see a losing team in the Championship no matter who the owners are.
Our attendances were pitiful even when we were pushing for the top 6 at Xmas time/NY
 
And the coaching/backroom/academy staff have been beefed up. Believe Darnbourgh has a staff of five or six under him alone, and they don't come cheap.
I'm as gutted as the next fan about dropping into league one, more so about the lost opportunities and the way the PL days and money has been squandered, because it has.
But look at it like this. We are rebuilding with a relatively new manager and football and the finances are changing by the day. We were getting gates under 10,000 before the lockdown, the lowest in the Championship, and the public had obviously fell out of love with the club.
League 1 could be a fresh start, more games, more victories ( hopefully) and a chance to regroup, build up the fanbase and start again.
That could be the twisted logic of the club at the moment. Its not mine,
I think we have gone down without a fight and the club has been mishandled, meaning this relegation could so easily have been avoided.
So I do not think it is a case of asset stripping at all just poor rank bad management of a football club.
Thanks for giving me a good laugh. Rebuilding? Is that what you call, at best, managed decline?
 
Thanks for giving me a good laugh. Rebuilding? Is that what you call, at best, managed decline?

Can't see how they'd get their money back if they don't rebuild and return to the championship.

Then they had assets to sell and parachute money coming in to offset some of the debt.

This time they've got sweet **** all and they're still out of pocket.
 
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Can't see how they'd get their money back if they don't rebuild and return to the championship.
The trouble is you may be crediting them with more awareness than they actually have. Enob particularly shows himself to have a total lack of self-awareness. Unless Papa is actually passing on advice and, importantly, making sure Son carries out the instructions, then the club is going nowhere but down, imho.
 
The trouble is you may be crediting them with more awareness than they actually have. Enob particularly shows himself to have a total lack of self-awareness. Unless Papa is actually passing on advice and, importantly, making sure Son carries out the instructions, then the club is going nowhere but down, imho.

I'm not saying they will get their money back lol

If they think we have enough to come straight back up without investment in a rebuild then they'll be in for a shock!

Stating what I think they need to do doesn't mean I think they will do it....

.... After all, who am I to tell them how to run their business? haha.
 
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Where on earth did you get those fees from? Elder was a couple of hundred thousand max for starters.

Arthur and McLoughlin were minimal fees as they were from non-League clubs. <doh>

Scott the only one there I'll grant you cost us a bit and that was in the wake of the sales of Bowen and Grosicki. I'm not suggesting every single player has been stripped with nothing to replace it, I'm suggesting there has been a gradual and systemic stripping of assets over time that has left us with a threadbare squad of kids and loanees. Blind Freddie could see that.

Yes they where minimal fees and from non league.....just remind me where did bowen come from and how much did he cost!
 
Peter Taylor’s interview was very good. Love that fella. We’ve been spoilt with some decent football managers in the past.
 
Peter Taylor’s interview was very good. Love that fella. We’ve been spoilt with some decent football managers in the past.

If take him back for a season or two to stabilise things in a flash. Has the experience with youth to bring them on.

With a couple of EXPERIENCED additions at the level he'd turn the ship around.

Might not be pretty mind.
 
I’ll repeat it - most of the increased number of fans in the KC for that match were not Hull City fans. All the empty seats around me that were occupied for that one match are not people I have ever seen at the KC since it opened. I have sat in the same seat since it opened.
So are you saying there were 12-14000 rubberneckers there glp? And we still have 12-14000 loyal die hards just waiting for the allams to go??
 
So are you saying there were 12-14000 rubberneckers there glp? And we still have 12-14000 loyal die hards just waiting for the allams to go??

There'll be about 10,000 on the gate the first match after the allams sell up, whatever the division.

Whether they keep coming back depends on the ambition of the new regime and performances, but that first game they're gone there'll be a massive jump in attendance.

Mark my words.
 
"There'll be about 10,000 on the gate the first match after the allams sell up."

Dream on.

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
"There'll be about 10,000 on the gate the first match after the allams sell up."

Dream on.

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

Gates more than doubled as soon as Pearson took over from 3.5k under lloyd Why not 10k now?

Read the post properly. Whether they keep coming back will depend....

... But once the stench is gone there'll be loads wanting to celebrate that first game.
 
So are you saying there were 12-14000 rubberneckers there glp? And we still have 12-14000 loyal die hards just waiting for the allams to go??

There was absolutely loads of tourists at that game. You could just tell in the stands with lots of unfamiliar faces struggling with seat numbering. I know of at least 3 Large groups of teenage girls that went just to see Mason Mount Play. There’s a lot of stay away fans I know that didn’t go. So, based on what I saw in the South stand it is probably a fair representation of what was happening in the other 3 stands. It’s also fair to say the vast majority of the crowd for that match weren’t familiar with the stadium as they had never been before.
 
There was absolutely loads of tourists at that game. You could just tell in the stands with lots of unfamiliar faces struggling with seat numbering. I know of at least 3 Large groups of teenage girls that went just to see Mason Mount Play. There’s a lot of stay away fans I know that didn’t go. So, based on what I saw in the South stand it is probably a fair representation of what was happening in the other 3 stands. It’s also fair to say the vast majority of the crowd for that match weren’t familiar with the stadium as they had never been before.

Does it matter though? There's a market for football in this fair City which isn't being catered for under current ownership.
 
Gates more than doubled as soon as Pearson took over from 3.5k under lloyd Why not 10k now?

Read the post properly. Whether they keep coming back will depend....

... But once the stench is gone there'll be loads wanting to celebrate that first game.

I read the post properly, and made no comment as to whether 'they'll' keep coming back. I very much doubt when/if Allam goes the next regime's first match will attract 10,000 more.

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.