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Glad to see the back of international football.

Carnage in the goal markets again last night.
Seven of the nine Euro qualifiers were 0-0 at half time.
 
How are the Frankel's kids getting on @Royston ? I have not been keeping track.

I do fancy Eminent in the Irish Champion Stakes this Saturday... I know he is up against Churchill but just have a feeling and at 9/2 far better value than Church
 
AllHellLetLoose said:
How are the Frankel's kids getting on @Royston ? I have not been keeping track.

I do fancy Eminent in the Irish Champion Stakes this Saturday... I know he is up against Churchill but just have a feeling and at 9/2 far better value than Church
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Very well - Frankel has already sired a G1 winner in Japan I think and multiple G2 winners across the globe, including Cracksman here. We are definitely looking at the next Saddlers Wells / Gailieo if the horse stays healthy.

Here is a question for you @AllHellLetLoose - to mate with Frankel currently costs £125,000 a pop - regardless of whether the bunk up is successful.

Do you think @baraettmattesvensson charges similar after a meal in the Toby Carvery ?
 
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Royston said:
Very well - Frankel has already sired a G1 winner in Japan I think and multiple G2 winners across the globe, including Cracksman here. We are definitely looking at the next Saddlers Wells / Gailieo if the horse stays healthy.

Here is a question for you @AllHellLetLoose - to mate with Frankel currently costs £125,000 a pop - regardless of whether the bunk up is successful.

Do you think @baraettmattesvensson charges similar after a meal in the Toby Carvery ?
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I understand that @baraettmattesvensson offered the Chip Shop sort £125,000 for a pop .... turns out the Chip Shop sort is a FILF rather than a MILF and so the £125k was wasted
 
AllHellLetLoose said:
How are the Frankel's kids getting on @Royston ? I have not been keeping track.

I do fancy Eminent in the Irish Champion Stakes this Saturday... I know he is up against Churchill but just have a feeling and at 9/2 far better value than Church
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The problem for punters is that all of Frankel's progeny - particularly unraced ones - go off at ridiculous prices. The filly at Kempton on Monday night went off at 5/6 and came second, after the trainer made a lot of hyperbolic noise about her in the media.
 
Frankle runners this Saturday

Saturday (entries)
LEARN BY HEART in the Listed Ascendent Stakes at Haydock (2 year old)
ELARQAM in a Novice Stakes at Ascot (2 year old)
MONARCHS GLEN in the G3 September Stakes at Kempton
HARBA in a Fillies Handicap at Ascot
AMBROSIA in a Fillies Maiden at Thirsk
GHALYAH in a Fillies Maiden at Thirsk
WEEKENDER in a Heritage Handicap at Ascot
QUEEN KINDLY in the G1 Sprint Cup at Haydock
CRACKSMAN in the G1 Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown
EMINENT innthe G1 Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown
ATTY PERSSE in the G3 Enterprise Stakes at Leopardstown
 
AllHellLetLoose said:
Frankle runners this Saturday

Saturday (entries)
LEARN BY HEART in the Listed Ascendent Stakes at Haydock (2 year old)
ELARQAM in a Novice Stakes at Ascot (2 year old)
MONARCHS GLEN in the G3 September Stakes at Kempton
HARBA in a Fillies Handicap at Ascot
AMBROSIA in a Fillies Maiden at Thirsk
GHALYAH in a Fillies Maiden at Thirsk
WEEKENDER in a Heritage Handicap at Ascot
QUEEN KINDLY in the G1 Sprint Cup at Haydock
CRACKSMAN in the G1 Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown
EMINENT innthe G1 Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown
ATTY PERSSE in the G3 Enterprise Stakes at Leopardstown
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Eminent can't beat Cracksman on all known form.
The only thing that can stop Cracksman is if I back it.
 
Cracksman will go for the Prix Niel the following day at Chantilly. Gosden has said that was the plan, as the Niel is a group 2 and so won't have the group 1 penalty when he starts off next season (all about next season for him, anything this season is a bonus)
Thought he was mightily impressive myself at York couple weeks back. I'd have a crack at the Arc this year, whats the guarantee he will be still racing in a years time, considering the fragility of horses!

The HR forum on not606 is very decent, some good posters, good tips if there's any really into their Horse Racing on here <ok>
 
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Talal El said:
Cracksman will go for the Prix Niel the following day at Chantilly. Gosden has said that was the plan, as the Niel is a group 2 and so won't have the group 1 penalty when he starts off next season (all about next season for him, anything this season is a bonus)
Thought he was mightily impressive myself at York couple weeks back. I'd have a crack at the Arc this year, whats the guarantee he will be still racing in a years time, considering the fragility of horses!

The HR forum on not606 is very decent, some good posters, good tips if there's any really into their Horse Racing on here <ok>
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Defoe for the St Leger ?

Enable for the Arc

Gosden double.
 
Cracksman is going for the Prix Niel on Sunday not the Irish Champion Stakes on Saturday <ok> Eminent's competition in the Irish is Churchill... @Royston if you could go large on Churchill then Don & I can clean up on Eminent <cheers>

Friday (declared)
HERCULEAN in a Maiden at Ascot - full-brother to FAIR EVA (2 year old)
WADILSAFA in a Maiden at Ascot - dam half-sister to Guineas winner Ghanaati (2 year old)
RUBILINDA in a Conditions Race at Belmont Park

Saturday (declared)
LEARN BY HEART in the Listed Ascendent Stakes at Haydock (2 year old)
ELARQAM in a Novice Stakes at Ascot (2 year old)
AMBROSIA in a Fillies Maiden at Thirsk
QUEEN KINDLY in the G1 Sprint Cup at Haydock
EMINENT in the G1 Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown
NELSON in the G3 Champions Juvenile Stakes at Leopardstown
LIGHTENING QUICK in a Fillies Maiden at Leopardstown

Sunday (entries)
QUEEN KINDLY in the Listed Garrowby Stakes at York
ELARQAM in a Novice Stakes at York (2 year old)
LIGHTENING FAST in a Handicap at The Curragh
NELSON in the G1 National Stakes at The Curragh
ROSTROPOVICH in the G1 National Stakes at The Curragh
CRACKSMAN in the G2 Prix Niel at Chantilly
FINCHE in the G2 Prix Niel at Chantilly
LADY FRANKEL in the G1 Prix du Moulin
 
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