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AlRawdah said:
I don’t think the prices for the revised scheme are credible. Since those prices were last charged City have halved their gates - despite cheaper prices in those last two seasons. To then jack up the prices again would be financial suicide, and financial blunders are the one things the Allams always avoid.

Vote for the better concessions. While the structure might come to pass, the prices quoted are most unlikely to transpire.
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Do not underestimate the petty, vindictive, childish ****s. Either the vote goes in favour of the new proposal and that's what you will get or the vote goes against the proposal and things will stay as they are.

Stitched up like a kipper comes to mind.
 
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HCST Statement – Second Concessions Ballot

Having considered last week’s Hull City statement following the recent concessions ballot, Hull City Supporters Trust (HCST) have written to the club regarding the current situation. We would now like to place on record our position.

Firstly, we are calling for the club to be completely transparent regarding the previous ballot. The result should be released and acted upon as a starting point. No minimum turnout was ever mentioned before the ballot, so to declare it void after the event on that basis is entirely undemocratic and casts doubt upon the legitimacy of the process.

Although we won’t tell supporters how to use their vote, we don’t believe it’s worth voting in a second ballot on the basis that the club can arbitrarily declare it void at their own discretion.

The Supporters Committee, which was not consulted on this second ballot in any way, should be reconvened in line with EFL guidelines. There should then be the opportunity for the committee to propose changes to the pricing model or come up with a new model. We have suggested this in our communications to the club.

The Football Supporters Federation and Supporters Direct have been fully updated with the current situation and have offered their support.

As always, once we have received a response from the club addressing our concerns we will update our members and supporters.

http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/hcst-statement-second-concessions-ballot/
 
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originallambrettaman said:
HCST Statement – Second Concessions Ballot

Having considered last week’s Hull City statement following the recent concessions ballot, Hull City Supporters Trust (HCST) have written to the club regarding the current situation. We would now like to place on record our position.

Firstly, we are calling for the club to be completely transparent regarding the previous ballot. The result should be released and acted upon as a starting point. No minimum turnout was ever mentioned before the ballot, so to declare it void after the event on that basis is entirely undemocratic and casts doubt upon the legitimacy of the process.

Although we won’t tell supporters how to use their vote, we don’t believe it’s worth voting in a second ballot on the basis that the club can arbitrarily declare it void at their own discretion.

The Supporters Committee, which was not consulted on this second ballot in any way, should be reconvened in line with EFL guidelines. There should then be the opportunity for the committee to propose changes to the pricing model or come up with a new model. We have suggested this in our communications to the club.

The Football Supporters Federation and Supporters Direct have been fully updated with the current situation and have offered their support.

As always, once we have received a response from the club addressing our concerns we will update our members and supporters.

http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/hcst-statement-second-concessions-ballot/
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Very well written, personally I would have been nowhere near as diplomatic.

#****thefuckoffallams
 
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originallambrettaman said:
HCST Statement – Second Concessions Ballot

Having considered last week’s Hull City statement following the recent concessions ballot, Hull City Supporters Trust (HCST) have written to the club regarding the current situation. We would now like to place on record our position.

Firstly, we are calling for the club to be completely transparent regarding the previous ballot. The result should be released and acted upon as a starting point. No minimum turnout was ever mentioned before the ballot, so to declare it void after the event on that basis is entirely undemocratic and casts doubt upon the legitimacy of the process.

Although we won’t tell supporters how to use their vote, we don’t believe it’s worth voting in a second ballot on the basis that the club can arbitrarily declare it void at their own discretion.

The Supporters Committee, which was not consulted on this second ballot in any way, should be reconvened in line with EFL guidelines. There should then be the opportunity for the committee to propose changes to the pricing model or come up with a new model. We have suggested this in our communications to the club.

The Football Supporters Federation and Supporters Direct have been fully updated with the current situation and have offered their support.

As always, once we have received a response from the club addressing our concerns we will update our members and supporters.

http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/hcst-statement-second-concessions-ballot/
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I think that makes sense. While I don’t believe they would ever implement the punitive prices mentioned on the forthcoming second ballot, the best course of action is definitely to push the club to publish and act upon the original ballot, not keep dragging it out until they get answer they want.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
HCST Statement – Second Concessions Ballot

Having considered last week’s Hull City statement following the recent concessions ballot, Hull City Supporters Trust (HCST) have written to the club regarding the current situation. We would now like to place on record our position.

Firstly, we are calling for the club to be completely transparent regarding the previous ballot. The result should be released and acted upon as a starting point. No minimum turnout was ever mentioned before the ballot, so to declare it void after the event on that basis is entirely undemocratic and casts doubt upon the legitimacy of the process.

Although we won’t tell supporters how to use their vote, we don’t believe it’s worth voting in a second ballot on the basis that the club can arbitrarily declare it void at their own discretion.

The Supporters Committee, which was not consulted on this second ballot in any way, should be reconvened in line with EFL guidelines. There should then be the opportunity for the committee to propose changes to the pricing model or come up with a new model. We have suggested this in our communications to the club.

The Football Supporters Federation and Supporters Direct have been fully updated with the current situation and have offered their support.

As always, once we have received a response from the club addressing our concerns we will update our members and supporters.

http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/hcst-statement-second-concessions-ballot/
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Impressively sensible and well written response
 
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Their only real option is well stated and timely.

But why call for the reconvening of the Supporters Committee; hasn't it been proven to be a sham?
 
originallambrettaman said:
Because it’s the only way to publicly hold them to account on the promises they haven’t honoured.
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No, it isn't. The media, in all of its forms, is alive and well and open to use.

Would the meetings go ahead without the Trust's support? What ways are better, than withdrawing from the meetings (even temporarily), for discovering the extent of the Allam desire for progress - currently they are in a position of strength, pulling whatever stunts they like, so why encourage more?

Any return to the meetings should be highly conditional; simple transparency on the ballot, that delivered the concessions asked for, is not enough, but would have been a start.

The name change promise seems to have just started it's period of change, so no cause for complaint yet, is there?

The badge is important, but a sideshow in reality.

So it's all about the price of adult tickets or have I missed something?

Not having a go here, just trying to understand were the dissatisfaction and objectives of the Trust merge.
 
The second ballot:

YES to adults, kids, pensioners, disabled, cats and dogs all paying over the odds and then the ALLAMS might spend some money in the next window

No.. and just watch us kill your club..
 
Fez said:
No, it isn't. The media, in all of its forms, is alive and well and open to use.

Would the meetings go ahead without the Trust's support? What ways are better, than withdrawing from the meetings (even temporarily), for discovering the extent of the Allam desire for progress - currently they are in a position of strength, pulling whatever stunts they like, so why encourage more?

Any return to the meetings should be highly conditional; simple transparency on the ballot, that delivered the concessions asked for, is not enough, but would have been a start.

The name change promise seems to have just started it's period of change, so no cause for complaint yet, is there?

The badge is important, but a sideshow in reality.

So it's all about the price of adult tickets or have I missed something?

Not having a go here, just trying to understand were the dissatisfaction and objectives of the Trust merge.
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They don’t have to talk to the media, they’ve only spoken to them on their own terms for the past four years.

The Supporters Committee are far better placed to challenge the club, with everything minuted and made public, it’s absolutely the right thing to do.

They gave commitments, they haven’t honoured them, they should now be made to explain themselves.
 
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