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Clovis Iscariot said:
So people are prepared to go along with this charade in order to establish the principal of concessions. It’s not even that we all pay more so the concessions pay less. What it means is we all pay exorbitantly more so the concessions pay less. That in itself is not a problem for me. What is a problem is that even though I don’t mind paying more, there are conditions attached to it. Having taken my money, and having got photo ID etc, I am not allowed to give my pass to another adult so he/she can go. The net revenue to the club is not affected. They are not being deprived of revenue as the person I give my pass to wouldn’t go otherwise. Our family has two adult passes but there are four of us who go. I go every match and the other goes to whoever can go. This is why I would like us to inform Ehab to shove his proposal and not bother with voting. It’s patently obvious that he has proposed and worded it in such a way that he is banking on most people not wanting to pay double, and will be delighted to announce that he gave us a chance and those that voted turned it down. Divide and rule. Or if he’s not happy will decide to offer another vote. Who knows? Everyone has their own vested interests and their own principals. The wording on that proposal document is so dictatorial yet we are supposed to be grateful for its content!
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What’s the point ? He’ll get what he wants and there’s nothing we can do to stop him.
 
Photo ID, I should coco. I've only scanned in three times this season, and against Barnsley flashed a Lotto fast pay ticket at the scanner before walking past the steward!


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
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Barchullona said:
The last season I had a pass I paid over £500. That season because of being in hospital or having paramedics out on a Friday or Saturday I missed 9 games. I gave my pass to one of my lads who was out of work to go with the other one or a big City fan who was also out of work. Now you couldn't do that under the new proposals. Wonderful.
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But there will be concessions <ok> if Ehab decides that the number of votes is a majority, A majority is over 20% apparently.
 
Some of the recent thoughts:

'Concessions are easy to change, just go back to what was.'...
...here they are.

'It's not about the adults, even the grey pound can afford it, but it's the kids, the next generation, who need the help.'...
...they've got it.

Quite a few tickets are legally transferable, it's certainly not unusual; just unfortunate. But do you really believe it will be imposed on anyone other than arseholes?

No-votes are a disaster...
...unless they get you the concessions you want.

The reported count was low (18%), no surprise as that was expected and sources seemed to confirm it...
...but it isn't believed. Why?

Dialogue was wanted, meetings have been attended, a ballot has been supported, a favoured vote was expressed (even though it was thought to be wrong to do so) and now, once again, there is outrage at the outcome...
...what did anyone really expect?

"If you dance with the devil, then you haven’t got a clue, for you think you’ll change the devil, but the devil changes you." J M Smith
 
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The state we are in and some people on here still insist in taking the piss.
You know who you are, but your long standing personal cyber enemies are clearly far more important to you than the problems your club face.

You know who you are. You should also know you are a ****ing disgrace to HCAFC.

Only unity can break the Allams.
 
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I know I am repeating myself but it is this phrase that is the biggest obstacle to me signing up next season

If you are found to be abusing the revised rules i.e. using someone else’s card or using a card that is not the correct age group for you, the Club will confiscate your card on the spot and you will be ejected from the stadium"

How dare they ask for £45 a month and then still treat you like a criminal if you let a relative go in your place. It is totally outragious.
 
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It really doesn't matter

How many ****ing polls has there been in the last 5 years

It's all boring and hopefully there is a fresh regime soon
 
It's all just kicking the can down the road, oh here's an offer of some concessions let's have a vote, ah some are not happy here's some different concessions let's have another vote. When will it end?

And if you think this is complicated just wait until they start on the name change. Another thing with no finishing line.
 
juleskaren said:
I know I am repeating myself but it is this phrase that is the biggest obstacle to me signing up next season

If you are found to be abusing the revised rules i.e. using someone else’s card or using a card that is not the correct age group for you, the Club will confiscate your card on the spot and you will be ejected from the stadium"

How dare they ask for £45 a month and then still treat you like a criminal if you let a relative go in your place. It is totally outragious.
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If people stand firm if asked & refuse to answer their questions the worse that could happen is them being asked to leave.

Once in & seated the stewards have no right to see or confiscate anything. Tell your guests to say nowt & leave.

Just never admit that you'd sent them in your place, “they must have bought tickets & sat in the wrong seats”
 
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Sir Cheshire Ben said:
If people stand firm if asked & refuse to answer their questions the worse that could happen is them being asked to leave.

Once in & seated the stewards have no right to see or confiscate anything. Tell your guests to say nowt & leave.

Just never admit that you'd sent them in your place, “they must have bought tickets & sat in the wrong seats”
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I think there is no law that states you must carry ID. Even when being arrested you have the right to say nothing. As for the club insisting on child photo ID which I presume they would keep a record of that's not a good place to be going.

Saying that I am sure the Allams and their legal team will have spent hours and hours going through the proposed concessions and their legality.
 
They really are a pair of bastards. The price for adults 3 years ago was too high. Now it's too low. Just pitch something in the middle for adults (25 to 64 year olds) you loathsome ****s. Under 10's - 20% of adult price, 11 to 17 - 25%, 18 to 24 - 50% and over 65's - 75%.

They are sucking the life out of me. They need sectioning. Surely to god they must be as sick as we are with these petty vindictive games.
 
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Just read the responses to the Facebook announcement.

**** me, we have some real ****s as fans.
 
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