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The Omega Man said:
There is a world of difference to the owner saying something and supporters getting a vote. Its been posted on here, so why not accept it. It sup to you, but when we lose the chance of ever getting concessions back, how will you feel then.

Actually, bollocks to this, you ****ing posted on here saying that you could not make your mind up and then all you have done is post reasons for not voting, your ****ing mind was made up before you asked the question and nothing posted by anyone else will make a blind bit of difference, but you will still do business with the owners, to make a shilling or two, whilst moaning that they will not budge on price. ****, **** off.
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Hang on a bit there matey, he said he didn't know which way to vote fair enough, many have said that if the current proposed concessions win the vote the campaign to get better ones will go on fair enough. Now you are saying the Allams have said that there will be or can be changes to the proposed concessions. 1st I would like to see when and where they said that and 2nd it's hard to believe.
 
originallambrettaman said:
There's nothing reasoned about most of your posts on this thread, much of it has been lopsided and wholly inaccurate.

We all agree that the concessions don't go far enough and that to be made acceptable to most people, they'll have to go further.

But unless the vote goes in favour of reintroducing concessions, they're going nowhere.
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They're going nowhere anyway. Watch and learn a very hard lesson.
 
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balkan tiger said:
Hang on a bit there matey, he said he didn't know which way to vote fair enough, many have said that if the current proposed concessions win the vote the campaign to get better ones will go on fair enough. Now you are saying the Allams have said that there will be or can be changes to the proposed concessions. 1st I would like to see when and where they said that and 2nd it's hard to believe.
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Its on this thread. I did not post it originally, I read it on here.
 
balkan tiger said:
Hang on a bit there matey, he said he didn't know which way to vote fair enough, many have said that if the current proposed concessions win the vote the campaign to get better ones will go on fair enough. Now you are saying the Allams have said that there will be or can be changes to the proposed concessions. 1st I would like to see when and where they said that and 2nd it's hard to believe.
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The Allams haven't actually said anything, but club representatives have told some of the Supporters Committee (following universal complaints about the restrictions) that they are open to discussing further amendments to improve things if the vote for concessions is successful. Obviously it might be bollocks, but it's what they've said.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
The Allams haven't actually said anything, but club representatives have told some of the Supporters Committee (following universal complaints about the restrictions) that they are open to discussing further amendments to improve things if the vote for concessions is successful. Obviously it might be bollocks, but it's what they've said.
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Oh for crying out loud :headbang:
 
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originallambrettaman said:
The Allams haven't actually said anything, but club representatives have told some of the Supporters Committee (following universal complaints about the restrictions) that they are open to discussing further amendments to improve things if the vote for concessions is successful. Obviously it might be bollocks, but it's what they've said.
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I thought you more than most on here would realise that anything that is not written down in crystal clear English is not a fact.
 
originallambrettaman said:
The Allams haven't actually said anything, but club representatives have told some of the Supporters Committee (following universal complaints about the restrictions) that they are open to discussing further amendments to improve things if the vote for concessions is successful. Obviously it might be bollocks, but it's what they've said.
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Why so naive all of a sudden?
 
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The Omega Man said:
On your first point, the vote would not be my first choice of method, to sort out this issue. But it is what we have on the table now and it needs to be followed through.

There is nothing to suggest that the concessions introduced will not be changed during the season.

It should not be forgotten that the original proposal was only to introduce concessions pricing to match day tickets and not membership, with a delayed introduction to changes to the membership scheme for next season.
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If someone put in on the table a meal you neither asked for or like, would you accept it? I don’t see any obligation to accept the voting options.

There is plenty to suggest they won’t.

I don’t see the relevance of your last paragraph, as I believe all change is proposed to be next season.
 
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Fez said:
If someone put in on the table a meal you neither asked for or like, would you accept it? I don’t see any obligation to accept the voting options.

There is plenty to suggest they won’t.

I don’t see the relevance of your last paragraph, as I believe all change is proposed to be next season.
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If I went to the table and only asked to be fed, could I complain that what was on offer lacked seasoning or could I take the next opportunity to ask for some salt and pepper? The call was for concessions, the result was a vote, it might not satisfy the hunger, but it shouldnt be rejected.

There has been movement and it was only going to be changes to match day prices this season, so that movement cannot be dismissed. I do not believe that the committee should have a vote and so I support a season membership vote.
 
Happy Tiger said:
Well a vote against concessions is quite self explanatory.

A Vote for concessions is a mandate to the Trust to fight to change the ones on offer.

They'll have a job fighting against a "no, we the majority who could be arsed to vote decided to go with the existing scheme without concessions".

How is this all not REALLY obvious?
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How did you arrive at that? The Trust will do what the Trust will do and that has nothing to do with the vote as both possible results are incompatible with their stated objective of bringing back proper concessions.

I agree that a no vote would prove difficult for them, as the supporters will have spoken (in the view of the Allan spin camp), which is why a Trust position of not being supportive of the vote and encouraging a no-vote would have been preferable and would allowed them to continue their campaign on concessions.
 
Fez said:
How did you arrive at that? The Trust will do what the Trust will do and that has nothing to do with the vote as both possible results are incompatible with their stated objective of bringing back proper concessions.

I agree that a no vote would prove difficult for them, as the supporters will have spoken (in the view of the Allan spin camp), which is why a Trust position of not being supportive of the vote and encouraging a no-vote would have been preferable and would allowed them to continue their campaign on concessions.
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What?

Oh. It's you.

Well it's what I've been told.

It's also well documented online.

They'll maybe switch campaigning to get supporters onboard for concessions if there's a note vote, but after a no vote, that would imo be futile and a waste of energy.

Of course you'll disagree.

Carry on.
 
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