The ballot...

[dennisboothstash]

How much does an over 65 pay in any stand?
How much does a 16 year old pay in any stand?
Are there cheap memberships available for Adults with Juniors?

The fact is that there are concessions available where once there where none and yes it does mean that for some they would have to move to get them.

I would rather that than no change.

Yeh I know you would rather...I’m not criticising you for that

And I did say I hadn’t looked at older people prices

 

[dennisboothstash]

Like life, it’s a box of chocolates...

I don’t really like chocolates either

 

[DMD]

Like life, it’s a box of chocolates...

Watch out for nuts, and sickly soft centres.

 

[Fez]

Watch out for nuts, and sickly soft centres.

Thanks for the advice, but it’s about 7yrs too late...

 

[The Omega Man]

Would you rather be Hull Tigers in the premier league, or Hull City in non league?

I have only ever supported Hull City and have never said otherwise. Who the **** are you to question that in relation to the concession vote?

 

[Large Elephant]

Based on a lot of the comments I’ve seen online, I’m concerned that a lot of people who don’t think the concessions go far enough, aren’t going to vote at all.

If the vote for concessions doesn’t win, things will obviously stay as they are.

Agreed - but wasn't that always the Allam plan?

 

[Trau Morgus]

I’m not sure they’re unequivocally boycotting, although they have slagged it off
The Trust are yet to comment (they said they’d consider over the weekend)

According to the tweet below (no idea on accuracy) that if this new scheme brought just 17 new members the club will be better off

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That's a good statement.

I'm not on twitter so thanks for posting

 

[Amin Arrears]

I have only ever supported Hull City and have never said otherwise. Who the **** are you to question that in relation to the concession vote?

It's equally as stupid a question as the 'concession' vote.

 

[dennisboothstash]

How much does an over 65 pay in any stand?
How much does a 16 year old pay in any stand?
Are there cheap memberships available for Adults with Juniors?

The fact is that there are concessions available where once there where none and yes it does mean that for some they would have to move to get them.

I would rather that than no change.

By the way isn’t that the same thing that Ehab said when the current scheme came in?
There are cheaper prices, but you’ll just have to move seats to get them !

 

[Evington]

Not voting is a vote for keeping things as they are, it’s really as simple as that.

Ok I'll vote.

Dilemma

 

[Mike in Williamstown]

Watch out for nuts, and sickly soft centres.

This is the box of chocolates Ehab is offering whether it’s concessions or anything else.

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[Van Winkle bamber]

Glad you see the critical point in this, Happy, but the Trust have always had a mandate.

To you both:

Always prepared to take on board other opinion, but is, or should this really be about getting EA to back down and bugger how that is achieved? How does that make us any different to him?

Surely this really should be about the principle of concessions and all of its constituent parts: fairness, inclusivity (young, old, disabled), rewarding those who really have earned their stripes, encouraging the next generation - and this full price paying generation, who want to take their bairns.

We can’t guarantee what the Allams will do, regarding leaving; it’s no secret that I more or less agree with OLM on his prediction, but that shouldn’t cloud our thinking on concessions today - not next year or the year after.

Abstaining has a voice; especially if Trusts and action groups are prepared to recognise that. For instance, through the normal channels (that I have always advocated) encourage abstainers to email the HDM, the FSF, Channel 5 Championsip.., or all of them - even include the club, so they are aware, but not them exclusively. Encourage all voters to do that, if they feel they are caught between the devil and the deep...

These are hard choices, they aren’t political, like a General Election (as, Chazz, has suggested), this is a moral question of trading one section of our support to make a fleeting and dubious win over the owners. I think that’s bollocks and not worthy.

As the trust or OSC has not come out and said to abstain and it will show lack of support for the offer up to now, it is no longer an option as many have already voted for the principle of concession not the actual offer, not voting can only now be seen as not bothered

 

[tigerscanada]

That makes absolutely no sense.

Ehab doesn’t want concessions, he’s been fighting introducing any form of them ever since the membership scheme was launched.

You might not think those concessions go far enough, but they’re certainly concessions.

Voting for concessions AND cancelling one's membership at the same time would send a strong message I would imagine.

Such a strategy should be encouraged through the media (press ads and some sort of web-site poll to gather stats on volumes "voting" this way and for giving their reasons for cancellation). The stats from the poll could be published in the media.

A sudden drop in attendance at home games would be noticed and the reasons driven home. Potential new owners would be made aware of the strong sentiments of the supporters. Would the Allams be worried about the impact on the potential sale price of the club ?

Is there enough time before the ballot to do this ? Would there be a high enough uptake by supporters willing to terminate their memberships ?

Of course, the Allams may not give a damn if they feel that by the end of next season they can get enough out of the club even if relegated and no buyer emerges.

 

[tigerscanada]

So who is independently checking the votes anyway or does everybody suddenly trust the Allams ?

We have Putin on our side to jimmy the vote !

 

[Van Winkle bamber]

Voting for concessions AND cancelling one's membership at the same time would send a strong message I would imagine.

Such a strategy should be encouraged through the media (press ads and some sort of web-site poll to gather stats on volumes "voting" this way and for giving their reasons for cancellation). The stats from the poll could be published in the media.

A sudden drop in attendance at home games would be noticed and the reasons driven home. Potential new owners would be made aware of the strong sentiments of the supporters. Would the Allams be worried about the impact on the potential sale price of the club ?

Is there enough time before the ballot to do this ? Would there be a high enough uptake by supporters willing to terminate their memberships ?

There isn't even enough people willing to walk down a road before a match, the Hull City fan is now so fed up will all of this bullshit over so many years it seems the fight is gone, they have won. SAD TIMES

 

[Fez]

As the trust or OSC has not come out and said to abstain and it will show lack of support for the offer up to now, it is no longer an option as many have already voted for the principle of concession not the actual offer, not voting can only now be seen as not bothered

Not sure you are right, as those who advocate voting for it and also use extended social media report (on here) that there is a groundswell of abstainers that concerns them.

The Trust, as far as I'm concerned, have a confused and now difficult task to reconcile their activity within the meetings, to responding to the inevitable manipulation and sham offer. The OSC is a charitable fund-raiser and not a standard-bearer of principles to the club.

 

[Van Winkle bamber]

Not sure you are right, as those who advocate voying for it and also use extended social media report (on here) that there is a groundswell of abstainers that concerns them.

The Trust, as far as I'm concerned, have a confused and now difficult task to reconcile their activity within the meetings, to responding to the inevitable manipulation and sham offer. The OSC is a charitable fund-raiser and not a standard-bearer of principles to the club.

But there could have been an earthquake of abstainers if the trust had called it before people voted and now it's too late.As for the OSC I hadn't realised they don't have any opinions on anything and just support the club and owner no matter what.

 

[Fez]

But there could have been an earthquake of abstainers if the trust had called it before people voted and now it's too late.As for the OSC I hadn't realised they don't have any opinions on anything and just support the club and owner no matter what.

There might of been and it's not too late.

When the OSC agree with the club they say so, when they disagree, they stay silent. It's an official marriage of convenience.

 

[balkan tiger]

There might of been and it's not too late.

When the OSC agree with the club they say so, when they disagree, they stay silent. It's an official marriage of convenience.

Not very convenient for those supporters who join expecting to be represented at meetings.

 

[Van Winkle bamber]

There might of been and it's not too late.

When the OSC agree with the club they say so, when they disagree, they stay silent. It's an official marriage of convenience.

I would think majority have voted by now (3 days in)