The ballot...

[Fez]

Actually Chazz didn’t say it was like a General Election, he said the exact opposite
He quoted someone who said that ‘it’s like a General Election you just vote for what’s best for you’ in order to slate that person ...quite rightly

Fair enough, I was in a busy place when I read that and, without checking back, accept I made a genuine mistake, for which I apologise. My point wasn’t a dig at, Chazz, but simply using his reference, a general election, to draw a line between a political stance and a moral one.

Are you still undecided?

 

[The Omega Man]

Wow and ****ing hell that's some statement.
I don't see any politics it's about the reintroduction of some concessions.
Why does the OSC have a seat on the supporters meetings if you are not representing the views of anyone? That person is no better than the Allam picked ones.

The Supporters Committee has no powers it is a forum, the club is not bound by its decisions.
And as for your last sentence, if that is true for one member of the committee, you must think it is the same for all. Every member of that committee and each group is selected by the club.
As for the politics, of course there are politics and the OSC learnt from the past mistakes.

 

[Trau Morgus]

I will be abstaining, before jumping on my back read why.

If I voted yes to this I am not voting 'yes to the principle of concessions' that is not an option here. Not one of the choices is for the principle of concessions. One is to carry on as we are and one is to vote for Ehabs ludicrous pricing structure. The other is to take a stance and abstain.

I am abstaining because this is not an olive branch this is Ehab taking the piss. Unfortunately I know him through work and I know for a fact he will take this as a win.

The whole we will lobby him for better concessions. That won't happen. He will walk away and paint the picture of the wonderful owner of someone who listened to supporters. He will have a number of that committee on his side!

What we now need to do is up the propaganda up the media campaign, up the twitter campaign. Show the world for who he is really is. Now isnt the time to give into this terrible offer.

My boycott continues. [HASHTAG]#ALLAMSOUT[/HASHTAG]

Great post.

 

[Amin Arrears]

The conditions on children's tickets show this bullshit up for another one of their stupid games.

If you wish to carry on chasing your own tails and losing by playing along then feel free.

 

[Trau Morgus]

Ironic eh that something that should be brilliant, ie bringing back concessions, is dividing fans as much as anything else they've done

[HASHTAG]#allamsmasterclass[/HASHTAG]

 

[The Omega Man]

Ironic eh that something that should be brilliant, ie bringing back concessions, is dividing fans as much as anything else they've done

[HASHTAG]#allamsmasterclass[/HASHTAG]

Funny how I share the same view as OLM on this, it’s kind of brought us together.

 

[dennisboothstash]

Simple question

Regarding child/junior prices

Does anyone really see the following truly as ‘concessions’ because when there was a suggestion that concessions would only apply in certain areas every right minded person was horrified

Because this is a list of one adult with a selection of young uns compared to now...and I’m horrified

I adult 1 child
Z1 cheaper Z2 same price
1 adult 2 children
Z1 cheaper Z2 same price
1 adult 3 children
Z1 cheaper Z2 same price
1 adult 1 junior
Z1 more expensive Z2 more expensive
1 adult 2 junior
Z1 same price Z2 more expensive
1 adult 3 junior
Z1 cheaper Z2 more expensive

Someone really doesn’t like anyone in East Stand do they?!

So as a single adult in Zone 1 that’s not likely to bring kids for a while at least, if I vote for concessions I’d be voting for the people near me to probably get ‘concessions’ for their kids, but for a few to have their costs actually increased AND the people in East Stand to probably have their costs increased, certainly in the long run and for definitely none of them to get cheaper prices ever

To me that doesn’t really sound like concessions at all

*ive lost track of West Stand so not sure about there

 

[dennisboothstash]

Fair enough, I was in a busy place when I read that and, without checking back, accept I made a genuine mistake, for which I apologise. My point wasn’t a dig at, Chazz, but simply using his reference, a general election, to draw a line between a political stance and a moral one.

Are you still undecided?

Yes

 

[Fez]

I will be abstaining, before jumping on my back read why.

If I voted yes to this I am not voting 'yes to the principle of concessions' that is not an option here. Not one of the choices is for the principle of concessions. One is to carry on as we are and one is to vote for Ehabs ludicrous pricing structure. The other is to take a stance and abstain.

I am abstaining because this is not an olive branch this is Ehab taking the piss. Unfortunately I know him through work and I know for a fact he will take this as a win.

The whole we will lobby him for better concessions. That won't happen. He will walk away and paint the picture of the wonderful owner of someone who listened to supporters. He will have a number of that committee on his side!

What we now need to do is up the propaganda up the media campaign, up the twitter campaign. Show the world for who he is really is. Now isnt the time to give into this terrible offer.

My boycott continues. [HASHTAG]#ALLAMSOUT[/HASHTAG]

Things appear very clear in that nutshell. You’re right, of course.

 

[dennisboothstash]

Ironic eh that something that should be brilliant, ie bringing back concessions, is dividing fans as much as anything else they've done

[HASHTAG]#allamsmasterclass[/HASHTAG]

That’s because they’re not really concessions

 

[Trau Morgus]

That’s because they’re not really concessions

 

[Amin Arrears]

Simple question

Regarding child/junior prices

Does anyone really see the following truly as ‘concessions’ because when there was a suggestion that concessions would only apply in certain areas every right minded person was horrified

Because this is a list of one adult with a selection of young uns compared to now...and I’m horrified

I adult 1 child
Z1 cheaper Z2 same price
1 adult 2 children
Z1 cheaper Z2 same price
1 adult 3 children
Z1 cheaper Z2 same price
1 adult 1 junior
Z1 more expensive Z2 more expensive
1 adult 2 junior
Z1 same price Z2 more expensive
1 adult 3 junior
Z1 cheaper Z2 more expensive

Someone really doesn’t like anyone in East Stand do they?!

So as a single adult in Zone 1 that’s not likely to bring kids for a while at least, if I vote for concessions I’d be voting for the people near me to probably get ‘concessions’ for their kids, but for a few to have their costs actually increased AND the people in East Stand to probably have their costs increased, certainly in the long run and for definitely none of them to get cheaper prices ever

To me that doesn’t really sound like concessions at all

*ive lost track of West Stand so not sure about there

Bit of a realisation there.

These 'concessions' are in fact a devious plan to boost the owners bank balance.

But that's okay because it's merely the principle of having a differentiated child and senior price that matters, not the actual affordability.

 

[Fez]

That’s because they’re not really concessions

Which is exactly why there should be no ballot response; it’s a shameless sham from the Allams. For the Trust, or action groups, to encourage a vote for these proposals, simply supports that sham. I believe the action groups are unequivocally boycotting the ballot.

 

[Kempton]

Funny how I share the same view as OLM on this, it’s kind of brought us together.

It does seem that way. Is that a big deal for you?

 

[The Omega Man]

Simple question

Regarding child/junior prices

Does anyone really see the following truly as ‘concessions’ because when there was a suggestion that concessions would only apply in certain areas every right minded person was horrified

Because this is a list of one adult with a selection of young uns compared to now...and I’m horrified

I adult 1 child
Z1 cheaper Z2 same price
1 adult 2 children
Z1

How much does an over 65 pay in any stand?
How much does a 16 year old pay in any stand?
Are there cheap memberships available for Adults with Juniors?

The fact is that there are concessions available where once there where none and yes it does mean that for some they would have to move to get them.

I would rather that than no change.

 

[The Omega Man]

It does seem that way. Is that a big deal for you?

No not really, by the same token that there is division there is also unity in a view.

 

[Kempton]

No not really, by the same token that there is division there is also unity in a view.

Oh you proper fans

 

[Amin Arrears]

How much does an over 65 pay in any stand?
How much does a 16 year old pay in any stand?
Are there cheap memberships available for Adults with Juniors?

The fact is that there are concessions available where once there where none and yes it does mean that for some they would have to move to get them.

I would rather that than no change.

Would you rather be Hull Tigers in the premier league, or Hull City in non league?

 

[dennisboothstash]

Which is exactly why there should be no ballot response; it’s a shameless sham from the Allams. For the Trust, or action groups, to encourage a vote for these proposals, simply supports that sham. I believe the action groups are unequivocally boycotting the ballot.

I’m not sure they’re unequivocally boycotting, although they have slagged it off
The Trust are yet to comment (they said they’d consider over the weekend)

According to the tweet below (no idea on accuracy) that if this new scheme brought just 17 new members the club will be better off

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[Fez]

I’m not sure they’re unequivocally boycotting, although they have slagged it off
The Trust are yet to comment (they said they’d consider over the weekend)

According to the tweet below (no idea on accuracy) that if this new scheme brought just 17 new members the club will be better off

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