Off Topic The Ashes

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SA now leading the convicts by 595 runs with 4 wickets remaining. <applause><applause><applause><applause><applause><applause><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

Don't you just love it.

i don't see the point. australia had no change of getting to 450 and i know sa want to win a series against them for the first time since 1970, but extending the lead this much makes them less likely to win the match.
 
i don't see the point. australia had no change of getting to 450 and i know sa want to win a series against them for the first time since 1970, but extending the lead this much makes them less likely to win the match.

SA have already won the series 2-1 so the result doesn't really matter. They are just rubbing the cheating ****s noses in it and ****ing good for them. :emoticon-0137-clapp
 
First time I’ve properly sat down to watch England v NZ

They seem to be playing on a local park with no people watching?!

Weird

Anyway ...3 wickets down...game on
 
6 down now, one session left. didn't see a single mention of bairstow's 5 catches in the nz 1st innings.
 
I agree Chazz, far too much.

I agree but the exact opposite is one of the reasons why we lost. Cook, Stoneman, Malan and Vince needed far more time in the middle. Although we played far too much one day cricket, we need to play one more warm up matches against top class opposition. We can't blame this on burnout as that really wasn't the issue here. Our lack of variation, wrongly balanced side, poor batsman selection (Vince is a terrible selection, look at his division 1 record), lack of conversions of 50s to 100s, top class spinner etc... There is not one single thing that is going to correct this.

We also need to stop designing our domestic season around T20 cricket, and make the focus the County game again.

The issues we face are many, and cricket itself needs to decide how it wants to develop. Currently it is very very hard to win away, until teams can stop doctoring pitches (Include in England) to suit the home teams need teams are never going to win away.

I could write thousands of words on this but I won't bore anyone!
 
I agree but the exact opposite is one of the reasons why we lost. Cook, Stoneman, Malan and Vince needed far more time in the middle. Although we played far too much one day cricket, we need to play one more warm up matches against top class opposition. We can't blame this on burnout as that really wasn't the issue here. Our lack of variation, wrongly balanced side, poor batsman selection (Vince is a terrible selection, look at his division 1 record), lack of conversions of 50s to 100s, top class spinner etc... There is not one single thing that is going to correct this.

We also need to stop designing our domestic season around T20 cricket, and make the focus the County game again.

The issues we face are many, and cricket itself needs to decide how it wants to develop. Currently it is very very hard to win away, until teams can stop doctoring pitches (Include in England) to suit the home teams need teams are never going to win away.

I could write thousands of words on this but I won't bore anyone!

Some good points you raise, cricket has some difficult decisions to make, they must protect Test Cricket, maybe tweak some aspects of it to make it more attractive. If you haven't listened to it, have a listen to Aggers BBC TMS radio podcast chat with Richard Hadlee's (link below), he makes some very good points about what cricket should do going forward, with T20, 50 overs and Test matches. Also very interesting chat about Hadlee's father who wrote a very detailed diary about the NZ tour of England in 1949.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p062y7ft